14 day long day phases? What??

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi there,

I've come to this site after having played Mafia / Werewolf on four other sites / forums and a few things strike me as VERY different here from everywhere else I've played.

Two of these things are so weird to me that I wanted to ask about them.

The first is, the default length of day phases. It's my understanding that here on Mafiascum, the *default* length of day phases is 14 days. Fourteen!

Over on webDip where I gained most of my experience, the day phases are 48 hours. On vDip we decided to make them longer, at 72 hours.

But here it's 14 days. Two whole weeks!


Seriously MafiaScum, what gives? What is the reason for a two-week day phase? It seems totally unnecessary for the phase to be anywhere near that long.


Thanks,

JT

[mastina]

Back in the day we HAD no deadlines.
And when deadlines WERE eventually added, it was only on request/mod's prerogative.
And when deadlines became more common, standards were for long periods of time--three weeks, even a month.

You're lucky the average has fallen to fourteen days if you think that's too long because it used to be much, much, MUCH longer.

[Ellibereth]

A lot of us like to pretend we have jobs and lives.
A smaller subset actually do.

[Lycanfire]

People are ineffective with time and a lot of people on here are adults, having less time to begin with. We could play with 7-day phases and likely eliminate all the slack in present games, but I imagine the likely consequence is that queues will fire less. The metagame here would have to bend to accommodate it, and that wouldn't be painless either.

[Jamiet99uk]

People are ineffective with time and a lot of people on here are adults, having less time to begin with. We could play with 7-day phases and likely eliminate all the slack in present games, but I imagine the likely consequence is that queues will fire less. The metagame here would have to bend to accommodate it, and that wouldn't be painless either.

I do not understand what you mean by "fire" in this context?

[Jamiet99uk]

Back in the day we HAD no deadlines.
And when deadlines WERE eventually added, it was only on request/mod's prerogative.
And when deadlines became more common, standards were for long periods of time--three weeks, even a month.

You're lucky the average has fallen to fourteen days if you think that's too long because it used to be much, much, MUCH longer.

Well, I have a full-time job and I've both played and modded on a site where the standard is 48-hour day phases, and it was better.

[Creature]

Good thing lynches usually don't take too long to be achieved.

[Jamiet99uk]

Good thing lynches usually don't take too long to be achieved.

Your hammer mechanic is weird as hell too.

[Creature]

Atleast there's a way to end the day earlier.

[TywinL]

What's weird about the hammer mechanic?

[Sunlit Diamond]

I like the longer days. I also come from a blitz-style site. I vastly prefer it here with the longer deadlines and more talk focused play.

[Zachrulez]

Back in the day we HAD no deadlines.
And when deadlines WERE eventually added, it was only on request/mod's prerogative.
And when deadlines became more common, standards were for long periods of time--three weeks, even a month.

You're lucky the average has fallen to fourteen days if you think that's too long because it used to be much, much, MUCH longer.

4 months to finish 4 days in my first newbie. Oh the good old days.

[Jamiet99uk]

What's weird about the hammer mechanic?

It's weird that in your version of the game, the phase ends the second a candidate has a majority of votes.

On webDip / vDip, during the day players have *two* votes - one on which target they want to lynch, and the second on whether they want to end the day early (hammer). It works very well.

[Jamiet99uk]

I like the longer days. I also come from a blitz-style site. I vastly prefer it here with the longer deadlines and more talk focused play.

You see, for me, where I've come from, 48 hours doesn't seem like a "blitz". 48 hours is LOADS of time if everyone participates.

Mafiascum appears to encourage very lazy participation.

[Sunlit Diamond]

[PenguinPower]

I like the longer days. I also come from a blitz-style site. I vastly prefer it here with the longer deadlines and more talk focused play.

You see, for me, where I've come from, 48 hours doesn't seem like a "blitz". 48 hours is LOADS of time if everyone participates.

Mafiascum appears to encourage very lazy participation.

No. We encourage day play and analysis over power roles/night actions and random guessing.

I came from a 48/24 site as well, and I grew to actually enjoy this environment (though the 48/24 in me still comes out from time to time).

[Flubbernugget]

Time in the day is finite. I'd rather be lazy in mafia than lazy in life

[Fluminator]

In theory the 2 week phases allow for less time commitment per 24 hours, but I find the activity is just as steady throughout the entire 2 weeks as the activity in 48 hour games.

[Zachrulez]

Back in the day we HAD no deadlines.
And when deadlines WERE eventually added, it was only on request/mod's prerogative.
And when deadlines became more common, standards were for long periods of time--three weeks, even a month.

You're lucky the average has fallen to fourteen days if you think that's too long because it used to be much, much, MUCH longer.

Well, I have a full-time job and I've both played and modded on a site where the standard is 48-hour day phases, and it was better.

I like the longer days. I also come from a blitz-style site. I vastly prefer it here with the longer deadlines and more talk focused play.

You see, for me, where I've come from, 48 hours doesn't seem like a "blitz". 48 hours is LOADS of time if everyone participates.

Mafiascum appears to encourage very lazy participation.

I mean once you get here it's obvious we're not really having a discussion about the differences in site cultures now are we?

[IceGuy]

There's this other forum I'm also a member of. This forum discusses German high-speed rail.

I don't understand why MafiaScum insists on playing this strange forum game and having only English posts.

I think Coney Island should be replaced by a forum about the new high-speed rail connection between Erfurt and Nuremberg that will open in December, and all posts on MafiaScum should be in German.

[Porkens]

Games used to last 20 pages. People used to post a hell of a lot less.

[Jamiet99uk]

Back in the day we HAD no deadlines.
And when deadlines WERE eventually added, it was only on request/mod's prerogative.
And when deadlines became more common, standards were for long periods of time--three weeks, even a month.

You're lucky the average has fallen to fourteen days if you think that's too long because it used to be much, much, MUCH longer.

Well, I have a full-time job and I've both played and modded on a site where the standard is 48-hour day phases, and it was better.

I like the longer days. I also come from a blitz-style site. I vastly prefer it here with the longer deadlines and more talk focused play.

You see, for me, where I've come from, 48 hours doesn't seem like a "blitz". 48 hours is LOADS of time if everyone participates.

Mafiascum appears to encourage very lazy participation.

I mean once you get here it's obvious we're not really having a discussion about the differences in site cultures now are we?

I'm not sure what you want me to say to you, Zach. What are we having a discussion about, then?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm sorry but if a player can't participate a decent amount in any given 48 or 72-hour spell, they actually don't have time to play, and they shouldn't have signed up. Having a set-up where players only have to participate every few days, openly encourages lazy play.

[Ellibereth]

I'm sorry but if a player can't participate a decent amount in any given 48 or 72-hour spell, they actually don't have time to play, and they shouldn't have signed up. Having a set-up where players only have to participate every few days, openly encourages lazy play.

this seems like an opinion type thing
that we clearly disagree on

[Jamiet99uk]

By the way, I've got loads of time to comment here because the main Central Park game I'm in is currently in a night phase and, as I've learned, over here on MafiaScum you don't let town players participate during night phases because REASONS.