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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:55 pm

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Also think Chara is worth considering for paragon and A50 falls into the same category as Math ime.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:02 am

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Wouldn't accept rising star
I was an established player years ago already
I'd like a real newbie to win it :P
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:03 am

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To be fair, Rising Star also includes the old “Most Improved” as well as best Newbie.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 3:06 am

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Can I nominate Mathdino for hovering star, then?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 6:05 am

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hey if you could never again bump every single mafia game on site including some which ended as long as half a fuckin year ago it'd be really cool tyty
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 6:16 am

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I refer you to your avatar for a response.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 6:45 am

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In post 154, Davsto wrote:hey if you could never again bump every single mafia game on site including some which ended as long as half a fuckin year ago it'd be really cool tyty
Agreed, I'm obsessive about those little red unread tags so I had to mark all those games as read using the thing on the main page so I didn't go insane
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 8:59 am

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Regardless of the little flags it's intrusive and obnoxious.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 9:07 am

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I wouldn't have minded if it were just a few, but it was literally every single mafia thread, including some which were beyond relevant (and even including some that ended in 2017 so I'm pretty sure are invalid for nomination).

It was annoying and unnecessary spamposting. Had any non-mod done anything like that to advertise their thing they'd be banned or at least punished.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 10:44 am

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In post 149, CheekyTeeky wrote: a best town player award that isn't reliant on good reads and which promotes the notion of supportive team play.

Yes the scummies needs this.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 12:57 pm

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In post 158, Davsto wrote:I wouldn't have minded if it were just a few, but it was literally every single mafia thread, including some which were beyond relevant (and even including some that ended in 2017 so I'm pretty sure are invalid for nomination). It was annoying and unnecessary spamposting. Had any non-mod done anything like that to advertise their thing they'd be banned or at least punished.
It was a one-time thing.

It will not be done again, because the announcements will now be done as soon as we spot a game officially declared finished.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 1:15 pm

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How does it being a one-time thing have any relevance? It's still awfully thought out spam.

And that thing, posting after every game end? Sounds annoying and likely to get old real fast too.

And what's the point of either of those things? Why do you think either of the actions will help? This is not rhetorical, I'd like an answer thanks.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 1:25 pm

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In post 152, Pine wrote:To be fair, Rising Star also includes the old “Most Improved” as well as best Newbie.
This. Limiting it to Newbies explicitly is a mistake I would say. We are already too narrow on how many awards go out, might as well utilized them well.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 1:28 pm

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I agree.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2018 1:30 pm

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I mean yeah it would be cool if Most Improved Player were still actually an award

but if there's a choice between using an award to mean Best Newbie vs Most Improved, I think there's more payoff in Best Newbie, and would always support the award going to one of the (surprisingly many) quality late 2017 and early 2018 players.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2018 10:16 am

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In post 161, Davsto wrote: And what's the point of either of those things? Why do you think either of the actions will help? This is not rhetorical, I'd like an answer thanks.
There is the thought that not everyone playing or watching a game will know or remember at that time that scummies are a thing.
The best time for quality nominations is at the first opportunity, which is when the game ends.

Turning the question around, what do you think would help the scummies? Feel free to answer here (low volume please we need the thread to be
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nominations), in a thread of your choosing, or via PM. Thanks!
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2018 10:20 am

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More applicable awards. I see a lot of games where people are like "wow that person did a scummie worthy thing" but there are so incredibly few categories :/
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2018 10:28 am

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viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21912

there's a thread here for ideas
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sat May 19, 2018 5:45 am

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In post 159, beeboy wrote:
In post 149, CheekyTeeky wrote: a best town player award that isn't reliant on good reads and which promotes the notion of supportive team play.

Yes the scummies needs this.
You mentioned team play right? Make it a team award, given to the best-functioning town.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:12 pm

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In post 164, Mathdino wrote:I mean yeah it would be cool if Most Improved Player were still actually an award

but if there's a choice between using an award to mean Best Newbie vs Most Improved, I think there's more payoff in Best Newbie, and would always support the award going to one of the (surprisingly many) quality late 2017 and early 2018 players.
In which case I am going to throw my hat in with Alisae and say "Do all the Noms!" and let the judges figure out who deserves it the most.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 5:57 am

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OK but I'm literally saying I would not accept it even if judges decided that, so please no
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:39 pm

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I mean cluttering the awards with noms with the mindset of "let the judges figure out if they are worthy" is just bad. It's giving them a ton of extra work.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:58 pm

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I concur, but discouraging noms is not the way. A big part of the reason many of the awards people want to see were removed is that they didn't get noms. There were several years where Mastina was the only nominee for Professor Mafia, and other awards that didn't get any noms at all. While I believe the streamlining went too far, please do not discourage people from nominating.

If you feel someone is worthy of consideration by the judges, please do not hesitate at all. The judges know a subpar nom when they see one, and are capable of sorting. MathDino, the judges are also entitled to take antinoms into consideration, and I think your recent posts would count as one.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 2:41 am

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So, we can nominate ourselves now, by the way?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2018 7:05 am

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If the players that I want to nominate to a certain award were already nominated but without body of work, it's optimal for me just post here that I support the nomination or it's optimal to nominate them again myself adding body of work?

and of course...is it any good if I nominate someone even though I'm a newbie here? I mean, I've read a lot of games already but still...
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