The Third Party debacle.
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The Third Party debacle.
Alright guys, I want a legitimate discussion on the roles classified as "Third Party" and what they actually do around here.
Question One: What effects Third Parties could have if even one of them is in your game?
Question Two: If we could have one more third party be legal in Normal Games, which would it be?
Question Three: is there a preferred or hated type of Third Party site wide?
Question Four: Probably should have been one, but your favorite Third Party?- Alisae
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Your asking me the difference between Third Party and Multiball? Because considering you've been here a year longer I assume you know that.
Let me give other examples then that aren't Serial Killer: You have a Jester, a Lyncher/Executioner, a Survivor with specfic perks, and many ways to combine them into other types such as the Witch from Town of Salem, who wins when all the town are dead and wins with everyone else.- Alisae
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I enjoy Jesters in open micros tbh.
That's about it in terms of stuff I like, SKs are kinda awful?
Lynchers are awful in closed setups, in open setups I think they would be ok but I am not sure?
pedit: Amni is pretty cool I forgot about that.ah yes, beeboy style reads;
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This thread has inspired me to mod a game that will not fill.
edit: viewtopic.php?p=9944884#p9944884 \o/Last edited by beeboy on Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.ah yes, beeboy style reads;
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Feel this is rather closed minded. There are MANY more 3ps than just SK, it's just that no one is creative enough to make or use one
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That would never fly in a normal game, but definitely for themesIn post 17, Something_Smart wrote:I think there should be more 3P's that are explicitly designed to help town. The idea being that their interests align in general with the town's, but they can still have hidden agendas.
Two examples that come to mind.
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Then don’t mod or join those games sib <3
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Yeah because my mindset is really conservative when it comes to thisIn post 15, Gamma Emerald wrote:Feel this is rather closed minded. There are MANY more 3ps than just SK, it's just that no one is creative enough to make or use one
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1. In a smaller game, third party imposes significant threat to mafia, even more so when the number of mafia members take a hit to place a third party instead. In a larger game, third party receives significant disadvantages, because the longer they have to survive, the harder the game becomes to them.In post 0, JaydragonKing wrote:Alright guys, I want a legitimate discussion on the roles classified as "Third Party" and what they actually do around here.
Question One: What effects Third Parties could have if even one of them is in your game?
Question Two: If we could have one more third party be legal in Normal Games, which would it be?
Question Three: is there a preferred or hated type of Third Party site wide?
Question Four: Probably should have been one, but your favorite Third Party?
2. I think SK is just fine, because non-killing third party is very painful to play with, unless that third party has a non-standard win condition that does not require him to survive until the endgame. And with normal, adding that non-standard win condition is probably impossible.
3. I think it's generally the "unfun one to play" that people hate.
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1. Third parties aren't necessarily unbalanced so much as they are extremely swingy, and arguably results in not actually playing mafia. Mafia is about an informed minority vs an uninformed majority. SKs are uninformed and don't form associations. They play like town that doesn't wanna get shot.In post 0, JaydragonKing wrote:Question One: What effects Third Parties could have if even one of them is in your game?
Question Two: If we could have one more third party be legal in Normal Games, which would it be?
Question Three: is there a preferred or hated type of Third Party site wide?
Question Four: Probably should have been one, but your favorite Third Party?
2. Maybe survivor? I'm sure this has been discussed already. Survivors are a liability. Not helpful enough to get shot, and always ready to stick a knife in town's back.
3. They're mostly disliked. People already went over why. Some theme game mods have some really interesting third parties though. Varsoon is an easy example.
4. I like Lyncher. Executioner on Town of Salem and elsewhere. Fun low-effort/tension role to play.
Also amnesiac is a horrible role for MafiaScum because of how swingy it can make the game. They basically decide it. - Mathdino
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