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I don't think the investigation changing aspect of it is an issue; there are setups where maybe being a miller on certain nights could be potentially useful. That said, I agree that it does not seem very useful, and that's the greater issue with the role. People have made it clear in the past that roles that simply exist for the sake of existing are not really liked, and this kinda falls under that.In post 551, Gamma Emerald wrote:Except it changes how you investigate to cops temporarily. Firstly, that doesn’t seem useful ever, and secondly, it kinda bends the role changing rules.
I don't think it is reasonable or feasible to spell out every single combination of roles and modifiers that are "normal" and that are "not normal". There are just too many such combinations, and it is not worth the trouble.In post 552, Ythan wrote:That seems like a problem with activated.- Gypyx
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I agree that activated miller is kind of a bad role, i just used it as an example to a way to use the combined modifier on self-targeting rolesWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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hey so, i've been about normal roles recently, especially finder, (don't know what it is? yeah don't worry, no one used it in a setup yet, basically you're an investigative who only gets a positive if the player you visit is a specific role)
the problem with it imo, is that it generally has low appeal because
- peoples already know what they're finding, so if they find a town role, that's a pretty good confirm imo, and if they find a scum role, a investigation working on a single person kinda sucks
- the role peoples find only exist for one person most of the time, if the guy who has this role dies, congrats you're a VT
so how about this : aUniversal Finder, which would be derivated from that like we have a Universal backup derived from Backup
this role may target a player while naming a role, if the targeted player is said role, the universal finder gets a positive result
it could be used to confirm claims as town, or as a weak PR hunting tool for scum (which would need some support, like a mafia informed of setup and a universal finder would be quite fun imo)
Or is it just a bad idea?White Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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I like that. Seems more useful design-wise than specific finder.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Ythan
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Yeah basicallyWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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Just like UB is a Backup cop / Backup doctor / Backup RoleblockerWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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Good question about finding vanilla, i guess it could be up to discussion
And idk, Role Guesser sounds more themey to me if you see what I meanWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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Would forcing a player to take an action (via a power role capable of doing so) when they otherwise wouldn't take an action be a normal role?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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