Problems with the Queues

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Post Post #84 (isolation #0) » Fri May 18, 2018 2:06 am

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I think one thing that needs to be done for all queues(other than newbie or normal) is that
1. games are supposed to be balanced( unless they are themed games with a warning upon signups)
2. all games should be reviewed by at least one suitable person who accepted the version as good
3. moderators AND reviewers get punished for games that objectively did not meet their promises or were unannouncedly imbalanced.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #1) » Fri May 18, 2018 5:24 am

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In post 89, Ircher wrote:3) This is the part of the suggestion that is bad; how would you define "objectively did not meet their promises?" Have you balanced role madness games before? Have you balanced special mechanics before? Have you balanced bastard games before? Have you balanced large games before? Have you ever balanced a very swingy game before? Have you ever played a swingy game before? Neither reviewers nor the moderators should be punished for having an unbalanced game, at least not on the moderation/administration side of things; players can punish the moderator or reviewer by not signing up for games by that mod or not signing up for games reviewed by that reviewer. Reviewers work on a volunteer basis, and as it is, there are not that many reviewers (especially good ones). If you make it where the reviewer can be punished for "doing a bad job" (which is really hard to define objectively, especially if the decision is in the hands of the players), potential reviewers are going to be less inclined to try for that very reason.
Yes, fair point, that is not what I wanted.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

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Games that have found to be imbalanced should probably go away:
Lovers Mafia(scumsided)
Scumhunter's Speed 8p(scumsided)
Purgatory(townsided)
Complicated setups should NOT be approved to be run by a first time mod.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:38 am

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In post 324, northsidegal wrote:Could be as extreme as an open game where the players vote for what setup to play after the game fills, or it could just be a monthly poll of what setups players want to play, to be posted for anyone considering modding an open.
The first option is not good; we don`t need mods avoiding the queue to avoid a specific setup, and we don`t need mods modding a game they don`t like either(which will drag down game quality).
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Post Post #329 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:49 am

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In post 328, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 325, skitter30 wrote:mini theme has been super slow over the past few months (barring a few exceptions)
i would say almost as slow as open queue
Which is odd because it used to be the most frequented game queue.
The normal queue has lots of interesting possible role/modifier combinations and has the massive advantage of being properly reviewed; in that queue games are balanced and well done nearly all the time (although mistakes can still happen, they are rare) while the mini theme also hosts ... less reviewed setups. Or setups not everyone might like and take more time to fill(cult.....); and the micro themes are normally played in the micro queue anyways.
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