Problems with the Queues

[gobbledygook]

I don’t really understand why we allow micro sized games to be run outside of the micro queue. I think it backlogs those queues. Obviously this is pointed at the Normal queue because it is the only one with an appreciable amount of micro games being run in it.

That being said, I do think the Open queue should have a dedicated micro slot. Many of the open game setups are smaller games. If any queue outside of the dedicated Micro queue should have a micro slot, it is the Open queue.

I do think there is something to be said about the quality of the Open games floating through the queue. Just because a game is Open, doesn’t mean it’s fun. I think a lot of open game designers strive for certain theoretical win percentages rather than trying to design a fun game that is capable of being run when everyone knows everything.

[gobbledygook]

I don’t really understand why we allow micro sized games to be run outside of the micro queue. I think it backlogs those queues.

to the contrary, i find that the open queue is so backlogged that non-open micros find themselves backlogged by the micro opens that otherwise would have been in the open queue. i think a situation like that is taking place right now.

Oh really? Admittedly, I have not taken a look at the two queues or the current games. That type of back log makes sense though from what you’re describing.

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Mathdino fixed Hard Boiled with Noir, why is the former still being run?

The use of Weak in the Weak Hider role seems to conflict with the current Normal definition of Weak. We should name it a Pacifist Hider with the Pacifist modifier being one that dies if it targets a role capable of killing.
That might mess up Detective investigations and may “re-break” the setup. Either way, discussion for another thread I think.

[gobbledygook]

I am confused how balance needs to be play tested for an open setup? Wouldn’t the testing be for figuring out what’s fun?

[gobbledygook]

Like
consider it a Moderator Spotlight kind of queue?
It puts spotlight onto mods that are either
- Rising Stars in the modding community
- Already established mods with an excellent reputation (me, Varsoon, FakeGod)

I think if people were willing to let others run their setup could help this issue. I never understood why more people don’t do loan out their setups.

[gobbledygook]

NSG, I’m so dumb. I was signed up for two open setups in the micro queue.

I support this suggestion 100% now.

[gobbledygook]

Do people still consider multiball fun anymore? There’s a lot of multiball setups in the Approved Open Minis. Donner Party might need to be looked at again. Site culture has moved away from janitors in practice, even though the sheer amount of killing in that game seems like it might be fun.

[gobbledygook]

mini theme has been super slow over the past few months (barring a few exceptions)
i would say almost as slow as open queue

Which is odd because it used to be the most frequented game queue.

[gobbledygook]

That makes sense.

[gobbledygook]

RC: Don’t those sites cater to marathon-speed games? I thought MS was always known as the slowest mafia site around. Unless there is a drastic change in how fast games run, we won’t be able to appeal to those types of players.