Does the clique meta affect games?

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Sun May 20, 2018 2:31 am

Why, or why not? How?

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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Sun May 20, 2018 4:08 am

you have to stop making threads with one line ops
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Sun May 20, 2018 4:10 am

Psyche is lambasting the OP because they aren't a member of the same clique. Outgroup derogation is impacting MD as well as games.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Sun May 20, 2018 6:37 pm

In post 1, Psyche wrote:you have to stop making threads with one line ops

y?
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 3:44 am

I am shocked no one wants to talk about this.

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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 6:25 am

might be bc so little effort was put into the OP of the thread to stimulate discussion
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 6:39 am

Ill worded but there's definitely a similar effect

I'm categorically less likely to townread a capable player who I haven't played with much (lack of a 'feel' for their playstyle / idea of their ability as scum) honestly.

Fmpov I don't think it's an issue of specifically wanting to play within cliques--probably more so lower level of confidence in playing to wincon with unknown factors around


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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 8:20 am

Games have a tendency to shit the fan on a dime so I'm a lot more willing to keep people I actually have a pretty positive opinion on alive regardless of read just so the game stays bearable to play.
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 1:27 pm

Yeah I'd say cliques play a lot into things. First time I played a normal with Boonskiies and his "boon babes" I had no idea wtf was going on. I had fun with it though. And now I enjoy playing games with some of those people.

I think there are some games i shy away from because of the group's that are in there, cause I feel like their relations with Each other would over power my Game play/experience.
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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 4:43 pm

this is something i was going to talk about in the how to be good town thread but never got round to posting

it was mentioned a lot that charisma is essential to leading town to success

however, ive noticed player reputation seems to trump that because player X thinks player y is amazing town, ill just sheep or tunnel at the slightest sign of scum

when that happens, there is no telling them

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 5:35 pm

Yeah there's definitely a ~dark side~ to sheeping. I'll be the first one to sheep when it's called for but just following the most charismatic player or the player-who-is-best-at-town off a cliff is bad as... :lol:
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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Tue May 22, 2018 10:13 pm

I don't see how there is any answer to this other than an uncontroversial "yes."

Reads are based off of interactions, and you can't have a clique without interactions either.

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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Thu May 24, 2018 8:09 pm

I have literally seen things like "I don't want to argue with them because it will ruin my friendship" and "I don't want to lynch them since I like them" of course that could also just be things that scum say....

Being likable and friendly are good ways to not get lynched. We are only human so a players status with another player will affect how we read/interact said slot. Of course, there's the hubris effect where one says they can read a slot b/c they know the person. But I think if you are not lynching players just b/c they are your friends then its playing against your wincon (if you are town)
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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Fri May 25, 2018 11:36 pm

i'm totally fine with lynching my friends if i scum read them

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sat May 26, 2018 5:11 am

In post 13, Ranmaru wrote:i'm totally fine with lynching my friends if i scum read them

that is because you are the worst
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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Thu May 31, 2018 11:31 pm

In post 6, the worst wrote:Ill worded but there's definitely a similar effect

I'm categorically less likely to townread a capable player who I haven't played with much (lack of a 'feel' for their playstyle / idea of their ability as scum) honestly.

Fmpov I don't think it's an issue of specifically wanting to play within cliques--probably more so lower level of confidence in playing to wincon with unknown factors around


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well done.


Can you tell me a story about a "capable player" who you played with? What made them stand out in your mind as capable?

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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Thu May 31, 2018 11:35 pm

In post 12, Nero Cain wrote:I have literally seen things like "I don't want to argue with them because it will ruin my friendship" and "I don't want to lynch them since I like them" of course that could also just be things that scum say....

Being likable and friendly are good ways to not get lynched. We are only human so a players status with another player will affect how we read/interact said slot. Of course, there's the hubris effect where one says they can read a slot b/c they know the person. But I think if you are not lynching players just b/c they are your friends then its playing against your wincon (if you are town)


Yeah I totally agree. I would add that there is also hubris about the idea of "status" itself.


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