Does the clique meta affect games?

[Porkens]

Why, or why not? How?

[Psyche]

you have to stop making threads with one line ops

[RadiantCowbells]

Psyche is lambasting the OP because they aren't a member of the same clique. Outgroup derogation is impacting MD as well as games.

[Nero Cain]

you have to stop making threads with one line ops

y?

[Porkens]

I am shocked no one wants to talk about this.

[Randomnamechange]

might be bc so little effort was put into the OP of the thread to stimulate discussion

[the worst]

Ill worded but there's definitely a similar effect

I'm categorically less likely to townread a capable player who I haven't played with much (lack of a 'feel' for their playstyle / idea of their ability as scum) honestly.

Fmpov I don't think it's an issue of specifically wanting to play within cliques--probably more so lower level of confidence in playing to wincon with unknown factors around


Happy for people to shoot me down here. just doin some stimulatin

[Ankamius]

Games have a tendency to shit the fan on a dime so I'm a lot more willing to keep people I actually have a pretty positive opinion on alive regardless of read just so the game stays bearable to play.

[Archwing]

Yeah I'd say cliques play a lot into things. First time I played a normal with Boonskiies and his "boon babes" I had no idea wtf was going on. I had fun with it though. And now I enjoy playing games with some of those people.

I think there are some games i shy away from because of the group's that are in there, cause I feel like their relations with Each other would over power my Game play/experience.

[profii]

this is something i was going to talk about in the how to be good town thread but never got round to posting

it was mentioned a lot that charisma is essential to leading town to success

however, ive noticed player reputation seems to trump that because player X thinks player y is amazing town, ill just sheep or tunnel at the slightest sign of scum

when that happens, there is no telling them

[the worst]

Yeah there's definitely a ~dark side~ to sheeping. I'll be the first one to sheep when it's called for but just following the most charismatic player or the player-who-is-best-at-town off a cliff is bad as...

[Flubbernugget]

I don't see how there is any answer to this other than an uncontroversial "yes."

Reads are based off of interactions, and you can't have a clique without interactions either.

[Nero Cain]

I have literally seen things like "I don't want to argue with them because it will ruin my friendship" and "I don't want to lynch them since I like them" of course that could also just be things that scum say....

Being likable and friendly are good ways to not get lynched. We are only human so a players status with another player will affect how we read/interact said slot. Of course, there's the hubris effect where one says they can read a slot b/c they know the person. But I think if you are not lynching players just b/c they are your friends then its playing against your wincon (if you are town)

[Ranmaru]

i'm totally fine with lynching my friends if i scum read them

[the worst]

i'm totally fine with lynching my friends if i scum read them

that is because you are the worst
(this will look awful after this ava trend ends.)

[TPFKAP]

Ill worded but there's definitely a similar effect

I'm categorically less likely to townread a capable player who I haven't played with much (lack of a 'feel' for their playstyle / idea of their ability as scum) honestly.

Fmpov I don't think it's an issue of specifically wanting to play within cliques--probably more so lower level of confidence in playing to wincon with unknown factors around


Happy for people to shoot me down here. just doin some stimulatin

well done.


Can you tell me a story about a "capable player" who you played with? What made them stand out in your mind as capable?

[TPFKAP]

I have literally seen things like "I don't want to argue with them because it will ruin my friendship" and "I don't want to lynch them since I like them" of course that could also just be things that scum say....

Being likable and friendly are good ways to not get lynched. We are only human so a players status with another player will affect how we read/interact said slot. Of course, there's the hubris effect where one says they can read a slot b/c they know the person. But I think if you are not lynching players just b/c they are your friends then its playing against your wincon (if you are town)

Yeah I totally agree. I would add that there is also hubris about the idea of "status" itself.