BooneyToonz Discussion

[Boonskiies]

4/24/19 Update

Adding

Split

to the Role Book. *Modifier - allows combined roles to be split into two separate actions per night, rather than the same target, and is also Compulsive, so they must have multiple actions if they can.

Adding

Recharged

to the Role Book. *Modifier - allows blocked actions to be refunded to the user.

[Boonskiies]

Mutations

section added to go over different mutations of roles that aren’t quite ready to be there own role.

[davesaz]

Things are going into role book straight away vs. being tested as boon bank roles first?
Don't necessarily object, just curious.

[Something_Smart]

Boon Bank suggestions:

Archaeologist:

Each night, you will passively target each player who dies that night. You will get a complete list of all actions they took that night and all previous nights, and who was targeted by that action. (This is very strong but can be nerfed several way: limited-shot active ability, allowing them to see only actions taken in the same night, forcing them to target a player who died in a previous night instead of auto-targeting.)

Neighborizing Servant:

Each day, you may target a player. You will gain a neighborhood with that player for the next night only in which your role (but not alignment) will be revealed. Your target can choose what action, if any, you take that night. (Optional and recommended if the servant has a vig shot: if you die your target that night is publicly revealed)

Disabler:

Any action targeting you at night cannot be used the next night-- players are informed of this as soon as it occurs (but the Disabler is never informed). Can affect the factional kill. (Optional: make this a targeted active ability instead)

If any of these with any of the variants strike your fancy, go ahead and add them. These are my own homebrew roles that I'm the most proud of. (I've run them all and they were great.)

[Boonskiies]

Things are going into role book straight away vs. being tested as boon bank roles first?
Don't necessarily object, just curious.

Yeah, Split and Recharged probably should have been tested as Variants first, but some of the other roles I used a lot in Face 2 Face, so I saw them as decently normal and expected, and I was trying to differentiate from the old Normal Queue.

But you are right! They should be used as mutations or Variants. I would say Split/Recharged are mutations, though.

I wanted the Role Book a little more filled up, and now I think it’s solid.

Now let’s really start the BooneyToonz.

[Boonskiies]

Lovers/Suicide Bomber for instance are used in a lot of Open Setups well for F2F, which is why I gave them the option of being there. They should normally be considered pretty out there, and if you aren’t me, I imagine you’d use them less bastard.


@SS - Ooooo, yeah, I’m going to add Archaeologist and Disabler to the Boon Bank.

This will replace Cleric, as Cleric’s a bit to niche, I feel, and someone can just use that as a Variant if they would like to use it.

[Something_Smart]

Also I would recommend making PGO contraboon'd. I feel like PGO is something that is almost never a good idea.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also I would recommend making PGO contraboon'd. I feel like PGO is something that is almost never a good idea.

I’ve actually been thinking this too, tbh.

[Something_Smart]

Also I'm starting work on BooneyToonz XII, aka the first BooneyToonz setup that Boon himself will be able to play in! \o/

Because of that, I'm going to need a reviewer that isn't Boon I posted a request in the review thread; if anyone's interested, help would be much appreciated!

[Something_Smart]

Also, based on 42, you should really just add Cleric to the RoleBook because it can technically be built from already allowed roles and modifiers, but it makes a lot more sense and is easier to understand if it has a unique name.

[Flavor Leaf]

I like that. You’re right, it technically is a role already, and it’s so specific that it’s fine. I’ll add the definition in the Mutations section, which I’ll be updating when I have time. It’s all stuff that’s already acceptable, but things like the different traitor mechanics explained, or like what happened with Desperate in Slums.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also I'm starting work on BooneyToonz XII, aka the first BooneyToonz setup that Boon himself will be able to play in! \o/

Because of that, I'm going to need a reviewer that isn't Boon I posted a request in the review thread; if anyone's interested, help would be much appreciated!

Blessed!

I believe UnaBombah is also setting one up. He gets XIII.

[Flavor Leaf]

Thoughts on starting to abbreviate BooneyToonz in game titles as BTNZ to allow for more room and less filler looking titles? Obviously the title in the beginning is necessary, and I don’t hate spelling it all out, but as more and more come into existence, the numbers are making the titles longer, haha.

[Something_Smart]

I think just BT would be better, when people have been referring to BooneyToonz games they've usually been saying stuff like BTX or BTE. (At least I have anyway.) That said I don't think the size of the Roman numerals is a big concern and I like the requirement that titles be pithy (3-5 words tops). I will say I already have a title for mine that I like and I'm not worried about length at all

[Boonskiies]

Fair. You’re right...I’ve even been calling it BTX...LOL, I’m silly.

[Alisae]

Servant can just be a modifier tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

Servant can just be a modifier tbh

Haha, I’ll put some time into thinking of potential cool ways to add Servant as a modifier to some other roles.

[Jingle]

Whitelist reflexive

[Flavor Leaf]

Whitelist reflexive

Yeah, that definitely should be whitelisted already...

I’m trying to avoid adding more stuff without going through Boon Bank or polling, but Reflexive is really just an oversight.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I think it’s time for another Team Mafia like event. I might try and see if there’s a playerbase for it, and I’m willing to spearhead if need be.

If that’s not an option, I debated doing my own kind of event with a series of just BooneyToonz games, like 3 separate simultaneous games, with a team, obviously. 3 different types of BooneyToonz games. I’d take a step back from playing and focus on Modding if need be.

Hell, if I need to, I’ll mod like 3 or 4 games simultaneously, one on each account.

Any thoughts?

[Jingle]

I'm up for helping the modding end of things, but I'm probably gonna be less active as a player for 3-4 months.

TM specifically I'd caution as a LOT of prep work. To pull it off well, I'd say start planning it now for the end of the year or early next year, tbh. There were a lot of issues last time, and quite a few of them arose from a bit of a rush on the organizational end of things as we tried to get the games ready and launched in time.

[Something_Smart]

Careful, because now you've said you'll blacklist PGO and whitelist Reflexive, and that's a bit of a contradiction. I would whitelist Reflexive on the condition that it can't be a killing ability.

[Boonskiies]

I'm up for helping the modding end of things, but I'm probably gonna be less active as a player for 3-4 months.

TM specifically I'd caution as a LOT of prep work. To pull it off well, I'd say start planning it now for the end of the year or early next year, tbh. There were a lot of issues last time, and quite a few of them arose from a bit of a rush on the organizational end of things as we tried to get the games ready and launched in time.

Yeah, that’s what I figured, which is why I wanted to start some prep now.

Regardless, I could do that BooneyToonz event on a smaller scale to prep.

But yeah, I personally would like another Team Mafia to happen, even if I’m not a player, so I’ll look into setting that up for late this year, early next year.

[Boonskiies]

Careful, because now you've said you'll blacklist PGO and whitelist Reflexive, and that's a bit of a contradiction. I would whitelist Reflexive on the condition that it can't be a killing ability.

Damn. Yeah. I don’t like PGO WIFOM. I don’t think anyone does. It almost screwed me over hardcore in Overkill 2.

[Lycanfire]

Wouldn't hurt to ask around and get a list of capable mods, check in and inquire on their availability, Boon. There wasn't a Team Mafia this year so it's basically open for anyone that wants to woo Zoraster. Anyone putting it together would have to haul ass to get one going before summer, and after summer we're going to lose people that are in school, and the holidays are always dead time. I doubt that anyone in specific is aiming to start one at the beginning of next year, but I'd be surprised if we go two years dry after the interest in 2018.