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Why Vig should kill Cop

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 am
by crusty
There are a lot of problems inherent in the institution of policing .... killing cops, while an extreme tactic, is a powerful way in which marginalized communities can authentically reclaim power and authority in order to resist tyranny through direct action. Some will argue that the role of police is not truly to ensure justice and safety, but, rather, to serve as the footsoldiers of capital : when push comes to shove, police side with the bourgeoisie and elites over the working poor. They enable and preserve dysfunctional power dynamics that produce crime. Few know this, but the institution of policing in the United States, land of liberty, began as an organization of slave catchers. Good ideology leads to good praxis.

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Let's look at the big picture view:

Cop has the power to instantly clear a town OR instantly condemn a mafia scum to death.


This is incredibly OP as a skill; the mere presence of cop reports already give town an immense advantage over the scum.
And in a very deep sense, this OP role is bad for gameplay: when village gets their easy clears / easy scums, the need to scumhunt is absolutely abolished.
A scum counter-claiming cop only stacks the cards higher in town's favor, because it gives them a 50/50 for finding a scum.

In contrast, the vig is not given any special clues as to who to shoot. They generally can't and don't claim their role. This contrasting nature of the vig and cop means that, given one or the other, a game with 1 or more vigs will always have more intense "scum hunting" than a game with 1 or more cops. Mafia is a game of psychology. The most zealous fans of Mafia will insist that it is "scum hunting" that really defines the game, and the art of "scum hunting" is what demands talent and rewards skilled players. So for people who want to play genuinely interesting and challenging games of mafia, the need to remove cop is obvious.

I know, I know, the practice of "cop worship" is widespread in the mafia community. If my political & technical appeals to you about "killing cops" don't sway your opinion, let me finally resort to artistic appeals. Please listen to these elegies from marginalized communities with an open mind. Together, we can move past boot-licking and live in a better world by killing cops.




Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:56 am
by Invisibility
uh

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:56 am
by Child
Guys, i think crusty might be a member of the mafia :cop:

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:06 pm
by crusty
In post 2, Child wrote:Guys, i think crusty might be a member of the mafia :cop:
Are you hard claiming cop?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:09 pm
by Child
In post 3, crusty wrote:
In post 2, Child wrote:Guys, i think crusty might be a member of the mafia :cop:
Are you hard claiming cop?
Yup, and you just got a red-check. you are going to rot in jail, buddy :cop:

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:53 pm
by Agent Sparkles
MS shitposting quality has been so low lately. This is refreshing.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:57 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 5, Agent Sparkles wrote:MS shitposting quality has been so low lately. This is refreshing.
I’m eagerly anticipating the thread, about the pros and cons of playing to one’s wincon.

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:43 am
by Creature
Is this supposed to be in Speakeasy?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:09 am
by Invisibility
petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:45 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 8, Invisibility wrote:petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:48 am
by Child
In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
+

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:42 am
by Invisibility
isnt that already kind of the speakeasy?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:18 pm
by Agent Sparkles
It's already exactly the speakeasy

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:23 pm
by Creature
Even though the name doesn't make much sense

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:43 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8, Invisibility wrote:petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
It already exists

search.php?author_id=31062&sr=posts

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:54 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 14, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8, Invisibility wrote:petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
It already exists

search.php?author_id=31062&sr=posts
That’s an ISO of me. I thought you weren’t allowed to discuss
ongoing
games.

You really shouldn’t have posted this. :facepalm:

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:07 am
by Creature
It's of all your posts though.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:17 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 16, Creature wrote:It's of all your posts though.
That isn’t the point though. It would have been fine, if he referenced my posts from a
past
game. He just shouldn’t quote anything from an ongoing game. Are you suggesting I shitpost as a regular part of my playstyle?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 am
by Creature
I think he was suggesting you just shitpost in general.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:33 am
by Not_Mafia
Who knew a joke about shitposting would spawn actual shitposting

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:15 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 18, Creature wrote:I think he was suggesting you just shitpost in general.
In post 19, Not_Mafia wrote:Who knew a joke about shitposting would spawn actual shitposting

Spoiler:


:P