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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:54 pm

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In post 23, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 21, Wisdom wrote:Investigations targeting people who are harder to read is not a bad thing
Or anyone you scumread who town is probably never going to lynch.
investigations should target people so that their investigation is +equity whether they flip red or green.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2019 10:07 am

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OMGUSsing is more likely to come from town than scum, since scum are all about how they look and are in generally, less likely to do that.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2019 12:06 am

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I think to maybe extend on 2) particularly the charisma thing - I think that you probably wont see a game full of charismatic people not getting lynched but 1 charismatic dude that other people follow.

Then what happens is that block of people will be like 'I don't want to stray from this hive mind or they'll turn on me' so even though the 'hive mind' might be wrong, people just go for a safety in numbers approach. Someone might be looking at the game from a different angle or playing devils advocate for the right reasons, but might is probably likely to get lynched for going against the grain of the hive mind.

I think I'm saying sometimes people find it easier to go 'urgh different, must lynch' rather than 'lets try and understand that different POV'
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 12:48 pm

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RADARCOWBALLS teach me how to be more CHARISMA WORM!!
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 12:50 pm

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) energy, charisma, and time to post in thread are in most cases the factors that determine whether a player is lynched or not, not towniness of posts.
THIS is unfair to DR WORM!! IT"S VEEEERY hard to type lotsa posts when you are AN ACTUAL WORM!!
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 1:41 pm

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would you like me to teach you to charisma dr. worm?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 2:02 pm

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In post 30, the worst wrote:would you like me to teach you to charisma dr. worm?
I need it badly, apparently. :roll:
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:from least unpopular to most unpopular

5) anyone who says that they don't bus unless they need to or not at all is essentially claiming that they are a scum player with a narrow range of games that they are able to play
4) fluffposting contains just as much alignment indicative information as walls and cases and is more difficult for most players to fake
3) looking towny as scum is either the least or the second least important scum skill next to imitating your towngame despite the heavy value most assign to it
2) energy, charisma, and time to post in thread are in most cases the factors that determine whether a player is lynched or not, not towniness of posts.
1) MS's high replace rate is a blessing in disguise, except when it gets to the point where games are bleeding people faster than they can replace
5: yup. Bussing is useful because people undervalue it.
4: yup, provided you have a large enough sample. Both ingame and in meta.
3: meh. Its important to know how to portray yourself as town, but not as important to constantly 'be towny'.
2: Yes, to a large extent. Of course, knowing when to shut up and let people focus on other players is also useful.
1: No. I hate replacements in general. They throw wrenches into an otherwise solid game. Ask any scum or sk who has ever been lylo-lynched by a replacement with less than 50 posts. I personally play and post with the intention of tailoring my posts to my specific audience i.e. the current playerbase, not some new player.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:25 am

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1) didn't age well

I changed my mind on it
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:26 am

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In post 32, Fuscosco wrote:Ask any scum or sk who has ever been lylo-lynched by a replacement with less than 50 posts. I personally play and post with the intention of tailoring my posts to my specific audience i.e. the current playerbase, not some new player.
That said

This isn't the reason why

You need to play around replacements as scum

Replacing into slots where scum replaced out of a basically unwinnable situation though :(
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:59 am

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Here's an unpopular opinion.

Games that don't carry the Geriatric ruleset are unplayable.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:06 am

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In post 35, tn5421 wrote:Here's an unpopular opinion.

Games that don't carry the Geriatric ruleset are unplayable.
Here's an unpopular opinion.
Go back to Mafia 451.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:54 am

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In post 36, Alisae wrote:
In post 35, tn5421 wrote:Here's an unpopular opinion.

Games that don't carry the Geriatric ruleset are unplayable.
Here's an unpopular opinion.
Go back to Mafia 451.
I think I will.

Tell me when the Open Queue is less than 4 months backed up, if you don't mind, because I'd like to play one. You know how to reach me on discord.


Actually no, you're too much of a coward to talk to me anyway.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:30 am

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:06 pm

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alisae you should be nicer to people
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:37 pm

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I actually feel like I have been nicer to people.
A lot more then I used to be.
tn doesn't deserve it.
And like.
451 just isn't my crowd anymore.
I'm anchored to MS and 451 all has the same mentality of "MS sucks" and yes it does but idc I just wanna have fun and as of recently ever since I started playing I have been having fun except for 1 time I freaked out because a bunch of shit was happening.

But for the most part
I've been trying? =(
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:34 pm

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Alisae literally unfriended me and started calling me a piece of shit because i reported to staff that narna was ban evading and proved that alisae was aware of it.

Not sorry, don't want to your friend anymore, enjoy your life or not i guess.

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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:39 pm

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I mean I left it as it was but if you wanna turn this thread into a fucking dumpster fire the drama then be my guest just leave me out of it
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:44 pm

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In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 32, Fuscosco wrote:Ask any scum or sk who has ever been lylo-lynched by a replacement with less than 50 posts. I personally play and post with the intention of tailoring my posts to my specific audience i.e. the current playerbase, not some new player.
That said

This isn't the reason why

You need to play around replacements as scum

Replacing into slots where scum replaced out of a basically unwinnable situation though :(
And then making it 3 more days while you townpost and troll?
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:45 pm

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i'm more htinking about lylo situations i've been in

i've won multiple mechanically unwinnable replace ins that weren't in lylo because i had more time to do fuckery
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:04 pm

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To reiterate my unpopular opinion: 3500 posts in 24 hours is completely unacceptable, unless the game has more than 40 players.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:10 pm

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) energy, charisma, and time to post in thread are in most cases the factors that determine whether a player is lynched or not, not towniness of posts.
I never got lynched in my alts that I write properly, this is very true
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:05 pm

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In post 45, tn5421 wrote:To reiterate my unpopular opinion: 3500 posts in 24 hours is completely unacceptable, unless the game has more than 40 players.
Is that really an unpopular opinion?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:32 am

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In post 45, tn5421 wrote:To reiterate my unpopular opinion: 3500 posts in 24 hours is completely unacceptable, unless the game has more than 40 players.
3500 posts = 140 pages

I don't think I've ever seen that many pages in one day.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:18 am

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In post 47, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 45, tn5421 wrote:To reiterate my unpopular opinion: 3500 posts in 24 hours is completely unacceptable, unless the game has more than 40 players.
Is that really an unpopular opinion?
We had to make a specific ruleset to stop this from happening, so I would imagine so.
In post 48, BNL wrote:
In post 45, tn5421 wrote:To reiterate my unpopular opinion: 3500 posts in 24 hours is completely unacceptable, unless the game has more than 40 players.
3500 posts = 140 pages

I don't think I've ever seen that many pages in one day.
A few games I've played came close.
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