Scummies Nominations 2019

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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:08 pm

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We have Rising Star for generally good play when it’s a step above in some capacity
Maybe we neeed something for a player who is generally good
Or ya know we could just mom them for both categories
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:24 pm

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gamma, the problem with that is skitter wasn't exactly unknown or not considered a good town player before this year

she improved significantly this year, yes, but that doesn't mean she wasn't already fairly strong before that.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:38 pm

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I always felt like rising star was for someone who started in the year that the scummies covers, with some wiggle room on people who joined in the last 6 months of the year.

Like you wouldn't ever consider me for rising star (inb4 no one would do that anyways ahah) if i suddenly upped my game in a short time span. I could see someone coming out of the newbie queue that year and making a mark as someone to watch out for, aka a rising star, in our community and we look to acknowledge them. If someone who has been on site for awhile is playing well i feel like there are other categories that they can be entered under.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:54 pm

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In post 0, Scummies wrote:This award replaces both the Best Newbie award and Most Improved Player awards, and judges may consider elements of both those previous awards in deciding this award.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:59 pm

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In post 577, Formerfish wrote:Like you wouldn't ever consider me for rising star (inb4 no one would do that anyways ahah) if i suddenly upped my game in a short time span.
I mean I nominated Dunnstral whose game was upped in general this year.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:26 pm

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just a note from my POV

but if skitter ends up being more suited for a rising star nomination than a paragon nomination... then what exactly is paragon for?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:48 pm

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its just for NSG and RC. No one else.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:28 pm

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I was kinda pondering and I think skitter's scumplay may have improved more than her townplay this year...? but I think her towngame is holistically more impressive. rising star good nom I think!
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:52 pm

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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:04 am

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I feel like you should have to start in the bottom 50% of players to qualify for Rising Star so skitter doesn't qualify
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:14 am

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In post 584, popsofctown wrote:I feel like you should have to start in the bottom 50% of players to qualify for Rising Star so skitter doesn't qualify
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:03 am

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I don't exactly agree with that, like going from 55 percentile to top 10% is worthy of recognition

I do agree Skitter is not a rising star tho
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:06 am

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In post 586, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't exactly agree with that, like going from 55 percentile to top 10% is worthy of recognition

I do agree Skitter is not a rising star tho
It wouldn't be set in stone, really any jump from unmemorable or not present at all to impressively strong is worthy of rising star

Skitter is like... known to be a good town player before this year, so she's clearly outside of that criteria
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:28 am

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is anyone already planning on nomming FL for don corleone?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:34 am

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Don Calzone?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 588, Menalque wrote:is anyone already planning on nomming FL for don corleone?
I didn't want to vanity nom but I was considering doing it just to talk about FL as DC, because I think it's one of the best noms for DC this year? Either him or RC.

Therefore go ahead I guess about nomming him, I support.

I'll take advantage of this post to also vanity support/suggest some noms because currently I don't think I've the energy/time to do them:

Flavor Leaf as DC

Menalque for Rising Star

RC for Paragon

I think Skitter/Ank are also good paragon noms but I've not seen their games
across all year
that much so I can't really speak about them other than the small samples I've seen. Krazy is also someone that I'm not seeing people considering as paragon nom but should, but the thing about Krazy is that I remember two awesome town games from him but I've not read any other games with town!him on it so...I would need to do some digging.

Maybe and just maybe around christimas/new year I'll have more time and will do some noms. But honestly I think RC this year around has shown some impressive scum-hunting/town-hunting success. Consistently enough across all year being also one important aspect.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:52 am

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I would like to be excluded from contention for DC because I would like to judge the category and I've already won the award.

Also I genuinely don't believe that I deserve it given how much I've phoned in some of my scum games and I was team nommed for the two games that I think I overperformed in anyway.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:55 am

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In post 591, RadiantCowbells wrote:I would like to be excluded from contention for DC because I would like to judge the category and I've already won the award.
Honestly I actually thought of saying something like "I kind of support FL more because RC has already won DC before and we all know his good performance as scum" but I felt I could end up being disrespectful but there you go I guess...

Then yeah, I support FL as DC more than anyone else probably.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:56 am

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I wanted to add two DC nominations, one of which is you, the other I'll hold off on revealing so it's spicy when I do.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 593, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wanted to add two DC nominations, one of which is you, the other I'll hold off on revealing so it's spicy when I do.
Eh I think I don't have enough scum games for a DC nom especially scum wins tbh. I remember someone suggesting Chennis as DC and I remember being curious about it but I don't remember who suggested it.

But hmmm, I'm not sure there's someone that played consistently/effortfully across all the year better as scum than FL, really. Maybe Skitter but I'm lowkey against a second DC nom for her considering she won the past year DC as far as I know.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:04 pm

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Even when you lost like the mini normal, only one townie actually correctly scumread you and i think if it wasn't someone with as much ability to project their reads it wouldn't have mattered.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:05 pm

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like I don't think the fact that you lost that game from a mechanically difficult position with only one townie reading you correctly is a mark against you? Idk.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:09 pm

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No one or virtually no one gets statistically relevant sample sizes in a year. Subjective assessments like the one RC is making seem worthwhile over straight W/L.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:15 pm

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Hmm idk, I think talking about a nom on me is a bit angleshoot-y so I'll refrain from it. But I do genuinely think FL is probably the best DC nom here from all angles currently.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 pm

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I'm not antinomming FL, but I'm certainly going to nom other people that I think should be in consideration.
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