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Spectate/Dead threads/DC ought to be mandatory

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:03 pm

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To have a private forum/DC to discuss the game, get spoiled and most important of all, to yell at gamethrowing idiots, which are the bane of every good mafia player’s existence.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:17 pm

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ppl barely post in them though. Like they are fun to read and yeah, mods should make b/c what's the harm? but making it mandatory is not really something I agree with but a decent mod should go ahead and take the 10 seconds it takes to make one.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:19 pm

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In post 1, Nero Cain wrote:ppl barely post in them though. Like they are fun to read and yeah, mods should make b/c what's the harm? but making it mandatory is not really something I agree with but a decent mod should go ahead and take the 10 seconds it takes to make one.
I think it’s unfair to the players not to have one but not necessarily the case. The Heroes’ dead thread was ginormous.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:24 pm

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In post 1, Nero Cain wrote:a decent mod should go ahead and take the 10 seconds it takes to make one.
I'm much more concerned with timely VC's and prods and relatively on time phases but (some) mods already struggle with that. I think making a mandatory dead thread is putting too much pressure on them.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:29 pm

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Dead threads are nice to have and are a must have to be a good mod but they aren’t necessary to run a Mafia game.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:45 pm

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No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:49 pm

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In post 5, Nexus wrote:No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
How so? I think the exact opposite is true. Players need a moderated place to discuss the game. I’d even argue it’s therapeutic and good for the site.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 6:58 pm

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Dead threads are a fun place to shitpost. I’d argue, one of the highlights of playing mafia.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2019 10:47 pm

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In post 6, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5, Nexus wrote:No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
How so? I think the exact opposite is true. Players need a moderated place to discuss the game. I’d even argue it’s therapeutic and good for the site.
yelling at gamethrowing idiots is toxic, calling them idiots is toxic, you should be nice to them
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 12:40 am

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In post 8, Ramcius wrote:
In post 6, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5, Nexus wrote:No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
How so? I think the exact opposite is true. Players need a moderated place to discuss the game. I’d even argue it’s therapeutic and good for the site.
yelling at gamethrowing idiots is toxic, calling them idiots is toxic, you should be nice to them
Disagree. A dead thread is the only place to talk about an ongoing game you’re not in.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 12:41 am

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I wished there were discord chats, but whatever.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 12:43 am

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In post 10, Creature wrote:I wished there were discord chats, but whatever.
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Yeah, that would be even better.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 12:44 am

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Yes, it's toxic, but we eventually make up.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 12:44 am

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In post 12, Creature wrote:Yes, it's toxic, but we eventually make up.
Creature totally gets it. <3
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 12:58 am

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In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8, Ramcius wrote:
In post 6, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5, Nexus wrote:No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
How so? I think the exact opposite is true. Players need a moderated place to discuss the game. I’d even argue it’s therapeutic and good for the site.
yelling at gamethrowing idiots is toxic, calling them idiots is toxic, you should be nice to them
Disagree. A dead thread is the only place to talk about an ongoing game you’re not in.
Yelling and calling people names is toxic, that's a fact, not an opinion to disagree. I just answered your question, but real question is how much toxicity is acceptable? Cause it's impossible sometimes to hold your emotion in games, where you spent a lot of your time and then you see someone else making waste of all your efforts
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 1:06 am

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In post 8, Ramcius wrote:
In post 6, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5, Nexus wrote:No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
How so? I think the exact opposite is true. Players need a moderated place to discuss the game. I’d even argue it’s therapeutic and good for the site.
yelling at gamethrowing idiots is toxic, calling them idiots is toxic, you should be nice to them
Society would be better if we could just yell at people for being idiots rather than pat them on the back.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 2:13 am

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In post 15, Creature wrote:
In post 8, Ramcius wrote:
In post 6, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5, Nexus wrote:No. They are more often than not toxic and help to contribute to the toxicity of the site.
How so? I think the exact opposite is true. Players need a moderated place to discuss the game. I’d even argue it’s therapeutic and good for the site.
yelling at gamethrowing idiots is toxic, calling them idiots is toxic, you should be nice to them
Society would be better if we could just yell at people for being idiots rather than pat them on the back.
True, but they have majority, so they dictate rules
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 2:46 am

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I think there is a way to teach someone to be better at the game but I don't think most people in general know how. Also, I think that people are more focused on their own game experience than the good of the person they are mad at. I think both of these things contribute to toxicity. That being said, sometimes someone needs a good yelling at to realize that they're actually doing something wrong. Also, people use "gamethrowing" and "playing against wincon" too liberally
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 3:06 am

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i've never understood why people feel entitled to a spectator thread (I basically never have them), but I do think dead threads tend to be valuable.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 3:26 am

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In post 0, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:get spoiled
i dont think this should be mandatory, mod's discretion for spoiling the dead thread is fine
i like to keep my dead guessing up to a point
i do enjoy the existence of dead threads in general
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 3:57 am

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Has a mod actually refused to make you a dead thread when you asked?

And I don't agree with mandatory spoiling. Some people in the dead thread are still game solving and those spoiler tags are hard to resist.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:54 am

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In post 6, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Players need a moderated place to discuss the game.
I agree with Nancy here. Having a place for dead players/players that didn't have time to join the game talk/vent about the game seems p good.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 11:45 pm

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In post 11, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 10, Creature wrote:I wished there were discord chats, but whatever.
+1

Yeah, that would be even better.
Nothing is stoping you from doing this. Just sayin.


In post 18, ZOR TESTER wrote:i've never understood why people feel entitled to a spectator thread (I basically never have them), but I do think dead threads tend to be valuable.
Because 99% of mods have one and people are social creatures so they like to talk about things they were apart of.


In post 20, MaryJoLisa wrote:Has a mod actually refused to make you a dead thread when you asked?

And I don't agree with mandatory spoiling. Some people in the dead thread are still game solving and those spoiler tags are hard to resist.
imagine refusing to make a dead thread.

Mandatory spoiling is bad tbh.
Its a lot more fun to feed spoilers one by one tbh
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 2:37 am

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In post 22, Alisae wrote:
In post 18, ZOR TESTER wrote:i've never understood why people feel entitled to a spectator thread (I basically never have them), but I do think dead threads tend to be valuable.
Because 99% of mods have one and people are social creatures so they like to talk about things they were apart of.
Well right. But that's why I always have a dead thread. Spectators by their nature didn't take part in it.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 3:11 am

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I get something of value out of spectating because it helps me learn the game and talk to people about the techniques players are using to game solve. I also like the dead thread because if I'm still game solving and invested in the outcome of the game, I like speaking to like-minded people. It keeps me engaged when I would otherwise experience a sudden drop of activity.
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