Tell me how not to hate mafia

[Ramcius]

First you should tell us why you hate mafia

Also, you can't quit till you done with masochist mafia

Okay, I won’t quit before Masochist is over. *pinky swear*

I'm not that cruel, you don't have to wait for it to end, just till you dead

[Cheery Dog]

never join unless you can tell!

I know I can tell that's it's not an enjoyable game if I join.
(Probably something like Mastina's reasoning - it's then how to get through that phase before the game actually starts)

[Alisae]

Its ok to hate mafia

[Titus]

I don't hate it but I use it to read people better.

[Something_Smart]

I can't tell you what will work for you. But I can tell you what works for me when I'm feeling bad about a game.

If it's because of game-related things (i.e. your team is losing, you or someone you townread is getting mislynched), the best thing to remember is that it happens to everyone and it may not be anyone's fault. And yeah there are people who brag about not being mislynched but they either (a) are exceedingly easy to read which means their scumgame sucks or (b) shout so loud that nobody wants to argue with them which is not a positive trait.
For the rest of us, we all get mislynched for stupid reasons sometimes, and it's not your fault either.

If your confidence was damaged by getting mislynched once, then maybe you should set lower standards for yourself. Just play to do the best you can and when you lose you can chalk it up to the fact that everyone loses sometimes.

If you're feeling bad because of the players (i.e. toxicity, rampant lurking and apathy), the best thing is to not let it worry you. You can't control how these people act; what you can do is make the best of it. Try to do the opposite and encourage others to do the same. If someone's being toxic, be nice to them and get everyone else to ignore the toxicity.

Mafia, when viewed competitively, is a contradictory game. The way for everyone to achieve the highest winrate is through trust telling every game, but nobody wants to do that because it isn't fun. So, uh, don't play exclusively to win. Play to have fun. If you lost but had fun, that's still a success. Even better if you lost but EVERYBODY had fun.

I don't know exactly what the problem is, so if you already know this stuff or you know it won't apply to you, go ahead and ignore it. Just giving a braindump of what helps me

[Nancy Drew 39]

First you should tell us why you hate mafia

Also, you can't quit till you done with masochist mafia

Okay, I won’t quit before Masochist is over. *pinky swear*

I'm not that cruel, you don't have to wait for it to end, just till you dead

You always know the exact right thing to say, to cheer me up. <3

[Nancy Drew 39]

I can't tell you what will work for you. But I can tell you what works for me when I'm feeling bad about a game.

If it's because of game-related things (i.e. your team is losing, you or someone you townread is getting mislynched), the best thing to remember is that it happens to everyone and it may not be anyone's fault. And yeah there are people who brag about not being mislynched but they either (a) are exceedingly easy to read which means their scumgame sucks or (b) shout so loud that nobody wants to argue with them which is not a positive trait.
For the rest of us, [b{we all get mislynched for stupid reasons sometimes, and it's not your fault either[/b].

If your confidence was damaged by getting mislynched once, then maybe you should set lower standards for yourself. Just play to do the best you can and when you lose you can chalk it up to the fact that everyone loses sometimes.

If you're feeling bad because of the players (i.e. toxicity, rampant lurking and apathy), the best thing is to not let it worry you. You can't control how these people act; what you can do is make the best of it. Try to do the opposite and encourage others to do the same. If someone's being toxic, be nice to them and get everyone else to ignore the toxicity.

Mafia, when viewed competitively, is a contradictory game. The way for everyone to achieve the highest winrate is through trust telling every game, but nobody wants to do that because it isn't fun. So, uh, don't play exclusively to win. Play to have fun. If you lost but had fun, that's still a success. Even better if you lost but EVERYBODY had fun.

I don't know exactly what the problem is, so if you already know this stuff or you know it won't apply to you, go ahead and ignore it. Just giving a braindump of what helps me

+1

Thanks, this is an excellent post. <3

[Ramcius]

First you should tell us why you hate mafia

Also, you can't quit till you done with masochist mafia

Okay, I won’t quit before Masochist is over. *pinky swear*

I'm not that cruel, you don't have to wait for it to end, just till you dead

You always know the exact right thing to say, to cheer me up. <3

That's totally unintentional, I swear

[Nancy Drew 39]

First you should tell us why you hate mafia

Also, you can't quit till you done with masochist mafia

Okay, I won’t quit before Masochist is over. *pinky swear*

I'm not that cruel, you don't have to wait for it to end, just till you dead

You always know the exact right thing to say, to cheer me up. <3

That's totally unintentional, I swear

Don’t ever change.

[Ramcius]

First you should tell us why you hate mafia

Also, you can't quit till you done with masochist mafia

Okay, I won’t quit before Masochist is over. *pinky swear*

I'm not that cruel, you don't have to wait for it to end, just till you dead

You always know the exact right thing to say, to cheer me up. <3

That's totally unintentional, I swear

Don’t ever change.

I believe here I'm supposed to say "you're not my mom"

[the worst]

(a) are exceedingly easy to read which means their scumgame sucks or (b) shout so loud that nobody wants to argue with them which is not a positive trait

OR?? I am both of those things Mr. Smart. Get back in here and fight me!!


I think remembering mafia is a game and we're all town irl is the best way to enjoy it.

[Loopdan]

step 1: don't play in any more games, except...
step 2: /in as an SE in the Newbie Queue
step 3: wait a month to get into a game
by the time the game starts you won't hate mafia anymore

[MaryJoLisa]

Follow this advice! This is good advice.

[Raskolnikov]

I think remembering mafia is a game and we're all town irl is the best way to enjoy it.

Well shit. Anyone else didn't get an IRL role pm? No wonder I don't know what's going on.

[the worst]

I think remembering mafia is a game and we're all town irl is the best way to enjoy it.

Well shit. Anyone else didn't get an IRL role pm? No wonder I don't know what's going on.

You mean you've been playing for all these years without checking your role pm?

That's bad form, man. I shall check in with Listmod Trudeau and see whether corrective action is needed.

[Iconeum]

I think remembering mafia is a game and we're all town irl is the best way to enjoy it.

Well shit. Anyone else didn't get an IRL role pm? No wonder I don't know what's going on.

You mean you've been playing for all these years without checking your role pm?

That's bad form, man. I shall check in with Listmod Trudeau and see whether corrective action is needed.

What if listmod decides IRL modkill is required?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think remembering mafia is a game and we're all town irl is the best way to enjoy it.

Well shit. Anyone else didn't get an IRL role pm? No wonder I don't know what's going on.

You mean you've been playing for all these years without checking your role pm?

That's bad form, man. I shall check in with Listmod Trudeau and see whether corrective action is needed.

What if listmod decides IRL modkill is required?

You sleep with the





?

[Ramcius]

Why would you read your role PM? You can't slip, if you don't know that you're scum

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why would you read your role PM? You can't slip, if you don't know that you're scum

[Something_Smart]

Well shit. Anyone else didn't get an IRL role pm? No wonder I don't know what's going on.

Welcome, Raskolnikov, to

Life!

You are a

serial killer.

(What, did you really not see that one coming?)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well shit. Anyone else didn't get an IRL role pm? No wonder I don't know what's going on.

Welcome, Raskolnikov, to

Life!

You are a

serial killer.

(What, did you really not see that one coming?)

Spoiler:

[Nancy Drew 39]

Things aren’t getting any better for me. Since I got mislynched, my confidence in my ability to play properly has hit an all time low. Whenever I contemplate signing up/replacing in for a game, I basically have a panic attack and decide against it. I don’t know how to fix this.

[Raskolnikov]

Mislynches are a part of

life

mafia. Sometimes even to someone playing well if town is just playing poorly or paranoid or duncecapping it up. It helps for anxiety and panic to remember in the end it is just a game, and the worst case scenario of being lynched really just means you are free to start a new game. Do you tend to feel anxious about some things similarly outside of a Mafia context?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I have played badly in most of my recent games, save one where I was arguably town MVP, by correctly identifying the entire scumteam but even in that game, despite being bleeding obvtown, I was at L-2 on D1.

And that was before I got mislynched.

[Ramcius]

I have played badly in most of my recent games, save one where I was arguably town MVP, by correctly identifying the entire scumteam but even in that game, despite being bleeding obvtown, I was at L-2 on D1.

And that was before I got mislynched.

People have different methods to decide who is obvtown and who isn't, so just because you feel like you're obvtown doesn't mean other people will see you in same way. If your goal is to become obvtown, you have do things that are obvtown in their POV, not yours. Also, people are extremely paranoid in mafia games and often their actions are driven by their paranoia rather than logic