NewD3 Fakeclaims

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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:51 pm

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This thread is about scum fakeclaims
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:53 pm

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In post 20, Spangled wrote:
In post 18, Alisae wrote:Okay but newbies shouldn’t be doing that
SEs can and are likely to know what they’re doing.
Newbies won’t
But isn’t it an important thing to
try
...
If only so newbies know how hard it is to do well, or how poorly it can go — otherwise they won’t do it well even
in
closed setups, when they move on to them.
no because fakeclaims actually have a lot of thinking behind them and newbies shouldn't just start to fakeclaim because they'll probably throw
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:48 pm

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In NewD3 I think it's nearly always incorrect for scum to fakeclaim "out of the blue" / for no reason. The odds that a couple of Masons immediately know you're lying (and can possibly get you lynched even without revealing themselves) is way too high.

As scum, fakeclaiming a power role at L-1 or at massclaim might be more viable, though, as those are situations in which ending up in a 1v1 is less bad.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:15 am

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In post 15, Alisae wrote:Chennis this is mafia 101
Mafia fakeclaiming a PR when they’re run only serves the purpose to bait out another PR
I think the point that the OP is making is that you could get away with
a lot
more with 2D3 compared to newD3 in terms of fakeclaims as scum. As in if you didn't get CC'd after you fakeclaimed a PR then massclaim may be required to out you as scum (so all of the PR's have to come out to get you lynched), or in the case of setups C1 and C2 even massclaim couldn't be used to mechanically prove that you are scum. In each of the columns in 2D3 you had a PR that you could fakeclaim that had a 2/3 chance of not being CC'd (tracker for column A, doctor for column B, and both tracker/doctor for column C).
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:17 am

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In post 28, volxen wrote:I think the point that the OP is making is that you could get away with a lot more with 2D3 compared to newD3 in terms of fakeclaims as scum.
here's the thing about that
i think that difference is only really relevant to higher-end scumplayers who know what they're doing mechanically and isn't really relevant to newbies playing their first scum game
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:39 pm

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If you're fakeclaiming for a gambit, you're already doing it wrong.
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