7 thoughts after 7 years on MS

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7 thoughts after 7 years on MS

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:02 pm

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1) Trying to determine intellectually what scum are likely or not likely to do is far less effective than determining what scum actually do and looking for it.
2) Most people's biggest weakness as scum is that they just don't have their heart in it and it's obvious.
3) People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the generally established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely disagree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town.
4) When an average player makes a readslist in the game, their townreads and scumreads are generally less likely to be scum and their nullreads are more likely to be scum.
5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
6) Having bad reads doesn't make one a bad town player unless you force the entire town to act on your reads as opposed to being a team player.
7) Ideas about town unity and working together to win are great ideals but are, in most situations, lies. Someone has to get lynched. A chunk of players in most games will not have any reads on any players that are more consistent than at least one other townies read on that player. That's the nature of the game. Averaging all of the games reads is less effective as a method of play than relying on whoever in the game has the best read on each individual player. Whether it's more fun or not is another question entirely.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:06 pm

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:16 pm

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happy scumday.

These are interesting thoughts. It probably merits a wiki page.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:39 pm

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Best Godfather Quote?
Friendship is everything. Friendship is more than talent. It is more than the government. It is almost the equal of family.

“Great men are not born great, they grow great . . .”

“Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.”

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:57 pm

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Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult maybe

I'd have to think about it
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:37 pm

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In post 4, RadiantCowbells wrote:Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult maybe

I'd have to think about it
what do u mean by this
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:46 pm

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:3) People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the generally established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely disagree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town.
This.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:46 pm

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:6) Having bad reads doesn't make one a bad town player unless you force the entire town to act on your reads as opposed to being a team player.
This too.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:55 am

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:18 am

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:1) Trying to determine intellectually what scum are likely or not likely to do is far less effective than determining what scum actually do and looking for it.
Do you mean in the abstract or in the actual game being played?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:55 am

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) Most people's biggest weakness as scum is that they just don't have their heart in it and it's obvious.
100% yes
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 10, Ankamius wrote:
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) Most people's biggest weakness as scum is that they just don't have their heart in it and it's obvious.
100% yes
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:52 pm

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In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:59 pm

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In post 12, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:00 pm

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In post 12, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.
the odds are 50/50, it either works or it doesn't
just been unlucky but it'll even out trust me
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:41 pm

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In post 12, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.
To learn from their mistakes, first they must admit that what they're doing are mistakes
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:06 am

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:4) When an average player makes a readslist in the game, their townreads and scumreads are generally less likely to be scum and their nullreads are more likely to be scum.
I've realized this over time. My super confident reads are rarely scum. The reads that are 'meh' in nature to me turn out to be scum, sometimes.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:58 pm

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I'll just do that.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:03 am

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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:1) Trying to determine intellectually what scum are likely or not likely to do is far less effective than determining what scum actually do and looking for it.
this seems so astonishingly self-evident now I see it written down and yet it was never a thought I had myself before seeing it here
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