Are there software tools for analysing forum threads?
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Are there software tools for analysing forum threads?
I have just started a Mafia style game, and my first thought is that it would be useful to have some sort of software tools that could read forum threads, and produce output such as posting rates and "who voted for who" networks. Do any such things exist? Would the use of such be considered bad sportsmanship?- Ramcius
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That is a question I have not yet got an answer to. However, it seems to me that it would increase the fun if one is able to have various statistics to hand. Below is my first go at an analysis tool for my game, but it is on another forum so the xpath expersions would have to change to work here. The current output is:
How many posts has each user made:
Name 1 Name 2 Name 3 Name 4 Name 5 Name 6 Name 7 Name 8 Name 9 Name 10 Name 11 Name 12
2 7 13 7 13 6 1 11 4 6 8 3
Name 13 Name 14 Name 15 Name 16
4 5 1 1
How many votes has each user ever had:
Name 1 Name 2 Name 3 Name 4 Name 5 Name 6 Name 7 Name 8 Name 9 Name 10 Name 11 Name 12
2 1 0 2 1 3 1 2 1 1 1 1
Name 13 Name 14
1 2
I can load the output file into cytoscape and get a "who voted for who" network:
As I say, this is my first game so I do not know what use this will be, but some seems likely.
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the general idea is really good but I'm with others on this oneI have just started a Mafia style game, and my first thought is that it would be useful to have some sort of software tools that could read forum threads, you should also check out this loan affiliate network https://leadnetwork.com/pay-per-lead-af ... am-network and produce output such as posting rates and "who voted for who" networks. Do any such things exist? Would the use of such be considered bad sportsmanship?
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I think its more fun that way=)Last edited by samlarson on Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:07 am, edited 1 time in total.- Ythan
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i know the idea of "tool assisted scumhunting" is pretty infamous (a program which actually attempts the human element of the game, e.g. parsing players' alignments) but i'd definitely say using a tool to collate very unambiguous and very public data isn't against the spirit of the game. on the contrary, it enhances the integrity of the kinds of conversations players already have to get the game moving.
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I'm not talking about people, who see mafia games as a social gatherings, they don't care enough to even use software
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You think that's only way software can be used in mafia? What do you think about scanning person's whole posting history looking for how many times they said something specific as either alignment?In post 12, Ythan wrote:The spirit of mafia is not rescanning a thread for what posts votes occurred in.
I mean, what is described at the start of the thread is pretty useless, but there is far more applications for software in mafia- Ythan
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Off the top of my head, this could be achieved with (pseudo-)parsers like
BeautifulSoupand regular expressions.
You could scan for regular expressions of votes and dump them to form adotfile and then create a graph inGraphviz.
If you ask me, it's easier and faster to keep a small "summary" log in a physical notebook (I used to write: "post # -- Event" to analyze)Planning: Katamari Damacy Mafia - Less than 50% done!
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So, iirc Psyche has an API to do this specifically for MS. I've been debating ingesting it into a BI tool and doing some analytics.ShowHave retired for good; Life is too busy to have time or energy for mafia. It was fun~
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What is the spirit of maifa?In post 9, Ramcius wrote:What's the point in doing so? You might win more, sure, but you're abandoning spirit of the mafia, you know, the feel that YOU figured stuff, not some algorithm that you just ran. Also, it gets boring fast enough, because you putting less work in it and end result doesn't feel so rewarding<Embrace The Void>
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Usage of your own head to solve gameIn post 18, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What is the spirit of maifa?In post 9, Ramcius wrote:What's the point in doing so? You might win more, sure, but you're abandoning spirit of the mafia, you know, the feel that YOU figured stuff, not some algorithm that you just ran. Also, it gets boring fast enough, because you putting less work in it and end result doesn't feel so rewardingTact is for liars and politicians.- the worst
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I'll just make myself clear on this - any software that helps you analyse is broken and shouldn't be used, I mean real analyse, you give info and software gives you answer based on some algorithm. Software that helps to keep track of things is fine, but let's be real, that kind of software is borderline useless, even if you find scum with help of it, you can't convince other players, it simply wouldn't be enough of an argument.Tact is for liars and politicians.- Ythan
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Software like that should be seen as a great equalizer.ShowHave retired for good; Life is too busy to have time or energy for mafia. It was fun~
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