Term Replacement: Lovers and S* Bombers [CW: Self-Harm]

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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:37 am

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Whoa I get it now nice
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:25 pm

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I think Exploder is okay for the SD-Bomber

though it's not like Sacrificial Vigilante doesn't work (Sacrificial is the modifierization of SD-Bomber after all)
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:27 pm

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I'm fine with making "Sacrificial" a modifier. SB is a role that would better work as a modifier in any case.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:05 pm

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Sacrificial bomber or reflexive day vig, work for me.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:27 pm

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In post 103, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Sacrificial bomber or reflexive day vig, work for me.
none of those roles mean suicide bomber though
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:13 pm

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In post 104, Gypyx wrote:
In post 103, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Sacrificial bomber or reflexive day vig, work for me.
none of those roles mean suicide bomber though
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Sacrificial

How does “sacrificial bomber” not mean the exact same thing? “Sacrificial” is a modifier that 100% causes the in game death of a player, when activated.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Reflexive

The only difference with “reflexive day vig” is that it implies the death of said player is as a direct result which is pretty much irrelevant since most sd bombers don’t act with the sole intention to end their individual life in a game but to take out another player, so they actually both work.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:32 pm

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Sacrifical Bomber means : someone that dies while killing someone who kills him

Reflexive dayvig : Someone who viges anyone performing a day action on him
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:19 am

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I kinda like the term "Exploder" but I want to hear more opinions on different term replacements for SD-Bomber
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:29 am

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Replace SD-Bomb with “Terror Bomb” or “Horror Bomb”.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:36 am

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feels more theme-ey?
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:31 am

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In my open setup Make It Count, Cowboy, SD-bombers are flavored as Gunslinger.
Guillotina wrote:Replace SD-Bomb with “Terror Bomb” or “Horror Bomb”.
My only objection to "Terror Bomb" is implicitly say it's a terrorist attack. Unless that was what you were going for?

Horror Bomb feels very themed but could maybe work.

In general I'd like to push Sacrificial Dayvig as the replacement for SD-bomber, but you might also use Demolitionist.

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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:22 am

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In post 110, Cook wrote:In my open setup Make It Count, Cowboy, SD-bombers are flavored as Gunslinger.
Guillotina wrote:Replace SD-Bomb with “Terror Bomb” or “Horror Bomb”.
My only objection to "Terror Bomb" is implicitly say it's a terrorist attack. Unless that was what you were going for?

Horror Bomb feels very themed but could maybe work.

In general I'd like to push Sacrificial Dayvig as the replacement for SD-bomber, but you might also use Demolitionist.

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Terror is terror and is applied to anything that produces fear, it's not synonymous to terrorism only, i think every individual will give whatever meaning to a word that fits their agenda to be honest.

A bomb that explodes killing the user and the target is a terror bomb because there is nothing more scary than someone who is willing to kill you risking his own life and you see it in a lot of games without implying thatnis terrorism.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:24 am

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Have you played bomb chicken? He puts terror bombs out of its ass. Lol
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:28 am

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So that's where you pulled it from
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:32 am

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In post 110, Cook wrote:In general I'd like to push Sacrificial Dayvig as the replacement for SD-bomber, but you might also use Demolitionist.
thing is, suicide bomber is so commoly used that it deserves a real name you see? like, you don't call jailkeeper "Combined Roleblocker Doctor"
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:33 am

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In post 113, Ythan wrote:So that's where you pulled it from
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:04 am

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I dont like the term “sacrificial” because it reminds me of stories ive heard when i was a child about satanists sacrificing babies and baby chickens =(

How about “player x targeted player y and both went mimis forever” ?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:36 am

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Fuck off troll
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:46 am

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I mean if you think about it, we are playing “Mafia”, i come from a country where mafia cartels terrorized the country for 25 years, we lived in fear thinking a car bomb would kill us at any time just for being at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
I think a better change would be changing the descriptions of what roles do. In example instead of “killing” (which is really scary in real life) we could rename it to “put in a eternal sleep”!, or instead of bombs that explode, we can use clouds that explode releasing sleepy powder...indefinitely. =)

What you think? (Im being serious, im not trolling).
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:46 am

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In post 117, Ythan wrote:Fuck off troll
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:49 am

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In post 118, Guillotina wrote:I mean if you think about it, we are playing “Mafia”, i come from a country where mafia cartels terrorized the country for 25 years, we lived in fear thinking a car bomb would kill us at any time just for being at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
I think a better change would be changing the descriptions of what roles do. In example instead of “killing” (which is really scary in real life) we could rename it to “put in a eternal sleep”!, or instead of bombs that explode, we can use clouds that explode releasing sleepy powder...indefinitely. =)

What you think? (Im being serious, im not trolling).
We can just call the game Werewolf if it gets to that point. We already have a term replacement for "Mafia", and that is "Werewolf".

As for killing it's too standard and prevalent in American Media to warrant a term replacement imo... but again I shouldn't assume things like this
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:50 am

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And still I'd prefer "leaves the town" over "put to sleep" as the latter is just a euphemism for killing anyway. But again, I disagree with this sweeping term replacement.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:51 am

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We can have all kinds of bombs that do not kill the target but but in a eternal sleep, lock them up permanently, sent off in a spaceship to another unknown planet, miniaturizing the target and condemn the target to live inside a goat. Etc.

Just ideas.

Let me know if you want me to brainstorm more.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:52 am

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i kinda want to bring this back to the topic of specifically term replacing SD-Bomber and other roles that mention self-death

If you have ideas for other term replacements I'd suggest making a new thread
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 120, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 118, Guillotina wrote:I mean if you think about it, we are playing “Mafia”, i come from a country where mafia cartels terrorized the country for 25 years, we lived in fear thinking a car bomb would kill us at any time just for being at the wrong place and at the wrong time.
I think a better change would be changing the descriptions of what roles do. In example instead of “killing” (which is really scary in real life) we could rename it to “put in a eternal sleep”!, or instead of bombs that explode, we can use clouds that explode releasing sleepy powder...indefinitely. =)

What you think? (Im being serious, im not trolling).
We can just call the game Werewolf if it gets to that point. We already have a term replacement for "Mafia", and that is "Werewolf".

As for killing it's too standard and prevalent in American Media to warrant a term replacement imo... but again I shouldn't assume things like this
Actually mafia replaced werewolves but yah we could go back to werewolves ripping us to shreds instead =)

Ok Temporal. Well SD-Bomber for something that does not explode killing people hmmm, i think i gave you a bun h of ideas. Leaving the thread now.
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