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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:55 pm

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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:32 pm

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oh god yes please roast me
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:46 pm

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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:49 pm

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In post 76, the worst wrote:oh god yes please roast me
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:03 pm

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In post 1, DkKoba wrote:
People looking for critique atm:

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this list is getting pretty large, if u got what u needed from this thread please consider /outting

ill start separating the list into 2 and add a "people who haven't gotten critique" list as well regardless when i got time. :)

hope to see results come from this thread if anything.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:19 pm

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I like what I’ve got so far but extra critique might be nice
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:25 pm

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I guess that's a good point Koba. I was here just to see what it was mostly.

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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 51, Alisae wrote:If anyone has anything to say to me I'll hear ya out ig so /in
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:05 pm

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Tbh you should all call someone else out in the thread. Like Bell gives good advice so someone should trade reading a game with Bell. I'm willing to read a game but like, I'm not gunna claim I'm some master mafia player lol. But if anyone wants me to you can ask and link a game.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:52 pm

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Eh I could trade with Alisae but I’ve been clear with em about where I think eir shortcomings are in the past iirc, and I feel like dragging it in here wouldn’t be nice
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:35 pm

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I suck, especially as scum.
Plz help.
You don’t even need to give me constructive criticism about how to improve. Just roast me.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:28 am

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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:44 am

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- You got good instincts and a playstyle that is very conducive toward bringing town together. From our few games together, I think a weakness you may have is being assertive. When you demonstrated some in Student Council, we were quickly able to wrap up the game, but I noticed in some other games you avoid doing this to an extent. There's a balance between your "cordial" style that brings town together and one where you're willing to go all in on yourself if you need to. This would also help you avoid getting mislimmed imo although I'm not sure if that happens to you much, and the one that we recently had together wasn't really all that much your fault although I think showing a bit more aggression may have helped you avoid that imo.

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- As scum I think you need to just say "fuck it" at some point and just grab the gamestate by the throat and never let go of it. I think you could've done that in the Newbie we played together and probably could've got the W. You're excellent at going under the radar and giving just enough input to remain in most people's good books while also not being a "hmm why didn't he die last night?" thought in peoples minds, but I think when you get closer to end game you'd benefit by going ham on some fools ;)

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- In games where you're town I think people who know you to a decent extent can very easily TR you, which I think is a big strength to have as it narrows down PoE. I think the next step for you imo is being able to wield that influence and people's confidence into reads that aren't overly-tunnely that can lead to 1v1s that can possibly take away from the game (i too need to work on this in some games lmao). Confidence in reads is great but there needs to be some sort of reevaluation and not being too quick to toss people directly in your scumbin or townbin. I feel like your style with a bit of improvement in terms of read quality could end up being the MVP of heaps of town games given your ability to obvtown whenever you feel like it.

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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:14 am

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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 61, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’d like if someone would look at my recent scum games (past 4 months or so) and tell me where I can improve
In post 85, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I suck, especially as scum.
Plz help.
You don’t even need to give me constructive criticism about how to improve. Just roast me.
let me flip this on its ear a little: what do you feel you have difficulty with as scum?


also, i don't believe i've played with norwegianboyee, so if you could link some games, it'd help
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:54 am

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In post 85, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I suck, especially as scum.
Plz help.
You don’t even need to give me constructive criticism about how to improve. Just roast me.
when hydraing with you I found that your arguements logically suck and when you push things you go a bit too hard it, while you try to spin what they're saying as scummy, which in return makes you look scummy and unnatural when you're pushing reads.
Also the only thing you know how to do is push it seems like.

In otherwords you're stupidly agressive.

This is advice for ur townplay btw.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:57 am

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But Alisae, i wasn’t really trying in that game.
And i’m not always super aggressive as town.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:39 am

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In post 89, petapan wrote:let me flip this on its ear a little: what do you feel you have difficulty with as scum?
Simply put I feel like I struggle with handling pressure as scum. I tend to turtle in response to pressure because I don't want to say something that'll make the situation worse.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:43 am

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In post 59, unwnd wrote:I would like to receive criticism if anyone has it

pedit Original post too specific
Bumping

It's very important to me that my posts are comprehensible (bonus points agreeable).

Both alignments, the way I interpret my own thoughts is crucial to me

Also my scumgame is a bit rusty, my issue is that I feel like I'm trying too hard. Like, as scum I'll pull stuff out of my ass and I literally sit there and think

'Man, If I was town I wouldn't believe any of this I'm saying' How do I stop that impulse? thanks
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:46 am

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As scum I try to take what I would say as town and spin it to fit my scum agenda. That way I'm fitting the two schools of mafia play at once (match your town play / push your agenda)
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:49 am

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Yeah that makes sense

I'm a wordy individual, that's very apparent. It's just that as scum I think I exaggerate this behavior, and I end up saying a lot of purposeless things. I actually enjoy being scum a great amount, I just feel like I'm not being deliberate enough and to some degree as you said not agend-y enough. I lean too much on heplful analysis than driving possible lims.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:49 pm

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In post 92, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 89, petapan wrote:let me flip this on its ear a little: what do you feel you have difficulty with as scum?
Simply put I feel like I struggle with handling pressure as scum. I tend to turtle in response to pressure because I don't want to say something that'll make the situation worse.
In post 94, Gamma Emerald wrote:As scum I try to take what I would say as town and spin it to fit my scum agenda. That way I'm fitting the two schools of mafia play at once (match your town play / push your agenda)
well, as town when you come under pressure, you tend to have a spark of irritability that usually makes people back off. often as scum people will subconsciously consider attacks against them valid, and so won't necessarily get as indignant. emulating the mindset you have as town, where if someone is pushing you it's bullshit and you're not going to take it might help. in general, never be afraid to fight back, because if you fight back strongly, people will typically get intimidated and not want to vote you.

how i've read you though, (and admittedly i haven't seen you as scum directly, but i did meta check you), is to look at whether you appear to be scumhunting. as scum, you'll make conversation, comment on things, maybe push people a little, but you tend to not have as much substance in your posts. i hope i don't seem like i'm pointing out the obvious, but in general i feel as though you could do to push your agenda more, make arguments, fake reads, etc. the important thing is to
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:55 pm

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I would really love some feedback but I probably already have an extremely good idea what people would critique about my towngame, so I’d probably find it more helpful to get advice on my scumgame but obviously both would be much appreciated. Thanks. :)
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:06 pm

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have more fun with scumming - see if you can do something wild that furthers your wincon in a roundabout way and get away with it, etc.
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:21 pm

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still want to get reviewed, mostly on how to not flake out
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