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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:29 am

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DISCLAIMER-

-Please do not post asking for criticism in here if you are sensitive to it or would react badly to it.

-Do not criticize people's play in here who did not ask for it.

-Please request criticism by making a clear statement that you wish to have people analyze you. preferably by posting /in or something obvious like that

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This is meant to be a way for people who wish to improve to learn their weaknesses so they can be better. Don't make me or a mod have to lock this thread. Thank you.


i wanna get a thread going where people who wish to improve are able to get honest input from others on what their weaknesses might be(feel free to add good points of a player in if you'd like). Bonus points for explaining what the person can do to improve.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:29 am

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People looking for critique atm:

Amélie
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:29 am

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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:32 am

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I'll start by saying that I myself did make this thread because I do want criticism.

I know my major weaknesses are as town that I:

am susceptible to good pockets
get myself discredited too easily even if I'm 100% right
don't form townblocks well
generally take too long to reach conclusions that others already have
probably theres more that i cant think of now but please add to it!

if you have any for scum I'll take it. I don't think that I really have much in terms of that.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:56 am

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Hi! I thought this looked interesting so I came. I would love to stick around and here what the answer is but I have to sleep so I'll read the feedback tomorrow. Thanks!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:36 pm

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sure
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you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 4, Amélie wrote:Hi! I thought this looked interesting so I came. I would love to stick around and here what the answer is but I have to sleep so I'll read the feedback tomorrow. Thanks!
I don't have a big enough sample size to give you a proper analysis but I think you were really under the radar in our game together, and if you didn't have ashoka running the show it might have been a much worse time there. Overall my general advice to players who don't engage much in games is to speak up! While I don't mean you have to spam like me, at least showing a bit of aggression and stance taking helps keep you out of PoEs or eliminated as a LHF slot.

I did believe you had the ability to endgame that game even if both your partners died there.

If you have any games to link I'd be happy to review :)
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:21 pm

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I'll take a review. Games are on my wiki ordered by most recently completed if you need to lookup a reference.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:43 pm

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Review me, I suppose.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:01 am

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could peoples have a look at my town game? i feel like my level has kinda stalled and idk how to change that
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:43 am

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:10 am

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you can also include criticisms about me as a person in your response
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:39 am

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In post 3, DkKoba wrote:I'll start by saying that I myself did make this thread because I do want criticism.

I know my major weaknesses are as town that I:

am susceptible to good pockets
get myself discredited too easily even if I'm 100% right
don't form townblocks well
generally take too long to reach conclusions that others already have
probably theres more that i cant think of now but please add to it!

if you have any for scum I'll take it. I don't think that I really have much in terms of that.
I only have one completed game and I could take some criticism on it! I replaced in day 1 and became the day 1 elimination.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:00 am

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Oh I saw this in active topics and assumed it was a speakeasy thread. I'd love some criticism on my play sure.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:01 am

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Koba: the biggest thing I would say for you is to be less abrasive, which lets people cooperate with you more easily. It's probably helpful for both alignments.

If anyone has criticism I'd hear it, advice would probably more helpful though.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:24 am

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In post 14, Infinity 324 wrote:If anyone has criticism I'd hear it, advice would probably more helpful though.
Just read everyone as well as you read me, easy

I wonder, how many people feel qualified to actually give advice?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:27 am

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In post 11, Errantparabola wrote:you can also include criticisms about me as a person in your response
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:32 am

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i would love critique on either my scum or townplay!! :>
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:37 am

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Alright as a suggestion since we have a lot of requesters and not much feedback going on, link a game or 3 that u feel reflects your average play, or perhaps a bad game where you feel you made a critical error and want to avoid it.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:41 am

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Also pulling myself out of the list so others can have a chance :3
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:46 am

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In post 14, Infinity 324 wrote:If anyone has criticism I'd hear it, advice would probably more helpful though.
From our limited experience together, I think the key thing I would suggest is to pay attention to the gamestate, especially in lylo. If you’ve been tunnelled on someone and you end up in lylo with them ask if that’s really a lylo that’s good for them and why they would choose it, versus if you’re wrong would it be a good lylo for the other person. It can feel truly awful (because you worry that you’re getting big brained by someone you already suspected) but *most* of the time it’s right. Since I started trying to approach lylos this way instead of just “who do I think is the scummiest player here” I’ve seen a noticeable improvement in choosing correctly.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:55 am

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Yeah that's a good point
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:06 am

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Critique me.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:21 am

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It's hard to critique others when you're terrible at this game.

I can give some specific feedback for future play from games I've played together.

For example, Ydrasse, you vig claimed in flavor vs. Pooky by saying you would visit me at night. it could have been wifom, but I didn't really think it was. Don't give the scum team information unless you need to.
I think as scum you could stand to a be a little less passive and more assertive, try to figure out something to say to miseliminate someone that can fly for the town and practice at it. I don't know if you read the scum PT in flavorleaf versus Pooky.

But you can break down some basic components of his and I think they make playing scum more fun.

There's Tactics that you can use to win engagements with others or secure a miselimination, so called short term play.
While Strategy is more of a broad overarching goal. Identifying your strategies and what tactics you need to achieve them is probably a good thing to get into the habit of doing.
You might want to sit down and think about how you want to play games as scum more broadly from a personality or identity perspective this might motivate you to try new things and improve.
You already know you have trouble fake solving and you're working on it.

Uhh, hope this helps!
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 am

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