Interaction between Kingmaker and Vote Thief

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Interaction between Kingmaker and Vote Thief

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:29 pm

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So I was scrolling through old scummies winners for best set up, looking for cool combinations, and I ran across this one:

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I noticed that in this set up, there a multiple kingmakers and there is also a vote thief.

How would those two resolve if one player were targeted by both abilities?

Would they be king, but unable to vote (ie, a forced no-lynch day)
Or does the king not vote, so can choose who to execute on the day they are king, but not vote any other day moving forward?
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:29 am

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I would be tempted to rule Kingmaker + Vote Thief targeting the same person resulting in the Vote Thief becoming King.

Then again I'm just using Theme logic for this.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:44 pm

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I agree with TL.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:47 pm

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The vote thieves in that game seem to be what I think might be called vote blockers now.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:51 pm

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As for that game I'm really not sure at the moment actually.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:57 pm

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the other interpretation that makes sense to me is that kingmaker + vote thief don't interact: king can still execute, vote thief has two votes. But I still prefer the vote thief is King interpretation.

If variant Silencer (makes you voteless the next day) is used and it does interact with Kingmaker: Kingmaker's ability effectively fails
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:03 pm

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I continue to agree with TL.
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