First and foremost, this thread is for discussion of the idea and mechanics. Once sufficient discussion has taken place, I will create a wiki page detailing the completed setup (EDIT: wiki page has been created). At that time, this thread will hopefully become something like the Grand Idea thread, where you can suggest booster sets to add to the wiki. Only packs that receive enough interest will be added.
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Recently, Gypyx (with help from Jingle and Datisi) put together a very cool game centered around drafting roles from randomly generated packs. A lot of people, including myself, really liked the mechanic and so I’ve taken it upon myself to try to turn it into an open setup similar to Great Idea Mafia so that it can be run again and again. I’ve also made changes to the overall design that I hope will take a really cool one-off and transform it into something that would be fun to run semi-regularly.
First and foremost, this thread is for discussion of the idea and mechanics. Once sufficient discussion has taken place, I will create a wiki page detailing the completed setup (EDIT: wiki page has been created). At that time, this thread will hopefully become something like the Grand Idea thread, where you can suggest booster sets to add to the wiki. Only packs that receive enough interest will be added.
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The base pack is designed to be a fairly "normal" setup. Things like voting interactions, redirection, pack investigation, etc, should (and will!) be included in packs. As Jingle pointed out in the review thread, there are some interactions that need to be clarified. These will be specified eventually on the wiki page, assuming anyone is interested in this. I'll make role PMs as well.- MURDERCAT
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A ideas for a flashier name than "Open Draft Mafia" will also be appreciated- Gypyx
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ego, will give thoughts on this later, but that's neat !
i assume scum can't pick mason?White Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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They can pick it and it will have no effect. Town who picks mason will be added to a mason thread.- Jingle
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Thanks! Definitely curious to get feedback about overall balance. That is a safe assumption, most of the roles are normal and the ones that aren't should be straightfoward enough (but of course feel free to ask questions, stuff like mason and neighbor are obviously unique here).
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Needs more checkers tbh"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Coming up with roles that do stuff that are not super useful is hard lol.- Gypyx
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what does "1-shot Reflexive Bulletproof" do?White Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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and otherwise, i'd think that like, maybe more roles with more than a single use could be a slight improvement ? because there's gonna be a lot of "draft what you're using tonight" otherwise, i'm afraidWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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It's bulletproof that works once. I think it's normally just called 1-shot bulletproof, but I wanted to be explicit that it isn't activated.- Gypyx
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well, 1-shot bulletproof is by default like that, but okayWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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but i like what you've done with the idea for the record ! Really feels like you smoothed out what i messed upWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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Thanks! The benefit of having the setup run once is worth a lot! And happy to have suggests for places to increase shots, this is definitely a jumping off point and I have no clue if it is balanced or anything.- Gypyx
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well, probably in the weaker roles i'd say? like, voyeur, check, and the likes
i'd also say to but draft related roles as additional boosters
thought about this, and combined could maybe be a fun thing to add also kinda?White Flag : Carebear Edition is in signups ! (10/13) sign up if you want a low pressure, high friendliness game !
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"Passive bulletproof" would be clearer I think?In post 13, MURDERCAT wrote:It's bulletproof that works once. I think it's normally just called 1-shot bulletproof, but I wanted to be explicit that it isn't activated.- MURDERCAT
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If it's not confusing, I'm perfectly happy to just call it 1-shot bulletproof- Ircher
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Yeah, I think reflexive bulletproof is more confusing. Bulletproof is after all a normal role, and without the activated modifier, it's considered a passive in normal games.
As for names, Draft Idea Mafia? Dunno if that's much better.- MURDERCAT
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Done!In post 20, Ircher wrote:Yeah, I think reflexive bulletproof is more confusing. Bulletproof is after all a normal role, and without the activated modifier, it's considered a passive in normal games.
Draft Idea is definitely an option, I personally find it difficult to keep all of them straight, but if people think it's better than Draft Mafia I'm fine with it- samantha97
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I am certainly willing to accept that conclusion. I do think that scum:
1. Gets a lot of insight into the strength of many town player's roles do to the passing mechanics
2. Has a lot of interesting fake claim strategies
3. Gets to "burn" a lot of useful roles
but I am certainly more worried about it being town-sided than scum-sided.- Infinity 324
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