Term Replacement: "Sanity"

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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:55 am

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b/c they are clumsy?
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:55 am

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Sorry I mean in terms of cop reliability if that was unclear.
Clumsy cop getting inaccurate results.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:57 am

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In post 126, Cheetory6 wrote:Sorry I mean in terms of cop reliability if that was unclear.
Clumsy cop getting inaccurate results.
Clumsy replacing Inverse would result in that situation, unless you want to serialize reliabilities.

I still don't even think Clumsy Cop sounds like a cop who gets inverted results.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:00 am

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yeah I guess I was thinking if you wanted to try to aim for a more flavoured replacement then some kind of character-based set of adjectives might be good, but there's precedent for more technical/clinical sounding roles like prime, even, odd, etc so maybe it's fine with the proposed suggestions.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:01 am

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@ nancy
suicide bombers are an unfortunate real-world thing. I don't really see the need to change it.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:02 pm

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In post 120, Nero Cain wrote:Echoing what others have said I don't think Paranoid or Naive are really mental health terms.

I'm not sure why we just don't use experienced/inexperienced to replace sane/insane. I also thought about vet/rookie but we'd have to change the other vet role that does ???? As an alternative to vet we could also use some other form of police rank.

Maybe a "corrupted cop" gets inno on scum/guilty on town.
Yeah... thought about this again, realized I don't really care much about sane/insane (especially if someone actually is offended). But paranoid/naive are just personality traits I think. They're fine IMHO.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 7, TemporalLich wrote:I don't really feel this term replacement is necessary as sanities are kinda something both historical and not really used in much setups nowadays outside stuff like Grand Idea Mafia.

This feels like a solution in need of a problem.



Here is my attempt at a term replacement for the (cop) sanities, but this is not something I'd use.

Sanity - Reliability
Sane - Reliable
Insane - Inverse
Paranoid - False Positive
Naive - False Negative
Random - Random
you could probably leave paranoid/naive
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:53 am

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In post 24, TemporalLich wrote:Still on the tangent of Paranoid Gun Owner, I think a 1:1 term replacement for it can be a Sentry or a Turret.

Speaking of sanities I still think "reliabilities" (as said by Jumble) make the most sense for cop sanities. IDK about sanities for other roles though, those can get themey flavorful replacements as sanities are something that should stay in Bastard games imo.
I like the Sentry idea, based on the idea of someone seeing someone in their vicinity and gunning them down
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:59 pm

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In post 131, Gamma Emerald wrote:you could probably leave paranoid/naive
The current Reliabilities proposal leaves Naive alone:

Reliable - works as normal
Inverse - opposite result or opposite effect
Cynical - incriminating result or excessive effect
Naive - clearing result or no effect
Random - random result or random effect
Unreliable - 50% reliable, 50% inverse (used for Doctor as a holdover from the first Reliabilities system)

Cynical can easily just be Paranoid if that is okay
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:02 pm

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Cynical is a better opposite to Naive tbh
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:17 pm

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i do think cynical just goes really well w naive, even independent of the core of this discussion
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 135, Psyche wrote:i do think cynical just goes really well w naive, even independent of the core of this discussion
yeah I think what we have now could work if we were replacing sanities (which I'm neutral on)
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:46 pm

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Yeah I feel like Sanities aren’t as serious an issue as the self-death word or the L-word
But if we’re going to change things it should be standardized what is being changed to when it comes to roles
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