Sorry for being the inside-the-box person in the last thread (for the record, I've read through some of the suggestions and I think they're great), but I've just noticed that "Sanity" is a word we use to describe reliability of investigative roles, and it's a mental health term too...yikes. Anyone have replacement suggestions for those words?
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
NVM you left by the looks of it. It is the HyperRogue server.
But yeah I feel like this is a solution in need of a problem. "Elimination" I understand and am fine with but I disagree with this and the previous thread.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
I don't really feel this term replacement is necessary as sanities are kinda something both historical and not really used in much setups nowadays outside stuff like Grand Idea Mafia.
This feels like a solution in need of a problem.
Here is my attempt at a term replacement for the (cop) sanities, but this is not something I'd use.
Sanity - Reliability
Sane - Reliable
Insane - Inverse
Paranoid - False Positive
Naive - False Negative
Random - Random
We shouldn't use roles because bad mechanical role play could offend the good name of the real life cops, doctors, bus drivers etc.
We shouldnt use masons and masonizers because secret societies might feel offended.
We shouldnt call people scum because well some players dont realize that mafia is a bubble where we are allowed to call each other scum without it being a personal attack.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
We shouldn't use roles because bad mechanical role play could offend the good name of the real life cops, doctors, bus drivers etc.
We shouldnt use masons and masonizers because secret societies might feel offended.
We shouldnt call people scum because well some players dont realize that mafia is a bubble where we are allowed to call each other scum without it being a personal attack.
Don’t forget how Mafia terminology blasphemes the honourable profession of janitor. Hell, ban the term “mafia” altogether and substitute it with “rat race” “life” or “reindeer games”.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
If we're considering mental health terms in Mafia to be lava, I'd term replace Psychologist (a Normal role!) and Psychiatrist before term replacing sanities (the latter is usually hidden from the player in Bastard games anyway).
I don't agree with this as it feels like we're on a slippery slope and I imagine the "sanities" are innocuous enough to not require term replacement even in theory.
I think you're almost certainly right and also that there are better ways to tell if anyone is offended than just assuming, as ~20 years of site history shows. I think we broadly recognized when we did make changes that they were long overdue.
In post 15, Ythan wrote:I think you're almost certainly right and also that there are better ways to tell if anyone is offended than just assuming, as ~20 years of site history shows. I think we broadly recognized when we did make changes that they were long overdue.
I mean yeah, this thread does have value because it actually asks the question instead of making blind assumptions.
These questions are worthwhile to ask, so I ask that people aren't dismissive when someone brings up an idea for a term replacement. Lynch was long overdue, so long, that we were among the last major sites to get rid of it. It's worth asking these questions because we were so late on that change. It doesn't mean that everything or anything will be replaced, but the conversations are worthwhile.
I don't think anyone has or will benefit from any term changes in this game, as they have nothing to do with the function of the game (and policing established terms can alienate people on top of it)
sorry for being dismissive but I'm kinda burned out from term replacements
I'd like more opinions as I consider this still a very open question
pedit: term replacements are intended to remove potentially distressing terminology. The L-word was burned into our minds as recalling a past of racial violence and the self-death word is a very real mental health trigger.
Still on the tangent of Paranoid Gun Owner, I think a 1:1 term replacement for it can be a Sentry or a Turret.
Speaking of sanities I still think "reliabilities" (as said by Jumble) make the most sense for cop sanities. IDK about sanities for other roles though, those can get themey flavorful replacements as sanities are something that should stay in Bastard games imo.