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No, those are fun to play against. What isn't fun to play against is an unexpected barrage of images or being expected to view the images - especially if you are playing with a screen reader (and therefore images appear as "Image" to you).In post 48, DkKoba wrote:info graphs and funny meme diagrams are positive aspects of the forums. Do you want to take that away from Bingle?time will end- Menalque
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UhIn post 45, TemporalLich wrote:External files also technically break the discussion of ongoing games rule
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for example, if you post a vocaroo discussing an ongoing game, it technically falls afoul of the discussion of ongoing games rule. But only technically, I don't know how the site works and if it's like imgur without publishing the image where you need the link anyway it should be fine.In post 52, Menalque wrote:
UhIn post 45, TemporalLich wrote:External files also technically break the discussion of ongoing games rule
How?time will end- Ythan
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imma be honest I still don’t really see itIn post 53, TemporalLich wrote:if you post a vocaroo discussing an ongoing game, it technically falls afoul of the discussion of ongoing games rule"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Datisi
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vocaroo is talking about ongoing gameIn post 55, Menalque wrote:
imma be honest I still don’t really see itIn post 53, TemporalLich wrote:if you post a vocaroo discussing an ongoing game, it technically falls afoul of the discussion of ongoing games rule
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I agree with this. (Made by the player) I also don't think banning anything is helpful to solve any problem outright, seems more like a Band-Aid.In post 16, Menalque wrote:I don’t see a problem with it so long as a transcript is included tbh- DkKoba
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How is it a band aid?In post 58, Ranmaru wrote:
I agree with this. (Made by the player) I also don't think banning anything is helpful to solve any problem outright, seems more like a Band-Aid.In post 16, Menalque wrote:I don’t see a problem with it so long as a transcript is included tbhretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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It doesn't address the issue, it is lazy. Instead you can suggest rules in place to ensure a transcript is given (as it would look as if made into a post). Can also make sure captions are in place to make it more accessible. Much better solution than simply banning it. The trade off is that it takes more effort.- DkKoba
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are you just against the idea of banning things or do you have a counterpoint to make that hasn't been addressed?
transcripts would need to be verified by game mods and the same issues arise.
also the point about the game not needing the extra dimension is also a great point that i think collectively agreeing to in normal and normal adjacent games is great.
u can feel free to run games and ask mods of non normal games to allow them if you really want them but the reason im bringing it up is because it DID affect a game i played (in team mafia) and it shouldnt even be allowed in the first place here.
you're right it takes more effort - and its effort that doesnt need to be put on a game mod.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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Not if a ban isn't reasonable, no. It is possible I will always try to slow down a ban if I see there is a way to improve it as I like to solve things. I always see a ban as a last resort. Trying to become a programmer may be influencing my thinking here as well.
To me this applies to a one off style, I don't see any reason to ban media if you can simply solve the problem without banning it. I can understand the mindset if the poster wanted to do so with every post, I think that is too much. (One or two is fine)
I do think this is more of something that should be left to mod discretion and not banned outright. It is fine for a mod to not want to allow those simply to not need to put in the effort to verify them. However, allowing them also allows fun.
The default should be posting via the forums of course. If the problem can't be solved though, then I can see how disallowing them is the better move. But I think we should try to solve it before moving to ban at least. I do agree we should be accessible. 100%.- DkKoba
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The solution is to play a text based game with visuals and not audio.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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A hybrid can be done. (Possibly with a limit per game phase) I do agree that it can be advertised for players to know in advance, like they do with hydras. The only point against audio and / or video is it may not be accessible unless a transcript and captions are provided. Don't see a reason to ban overall, but mod discretion is a fine compromise.- DkKoba
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this is about banning them from normals - not sitewide.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky- Isis
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I thought these would be fun to try out sometime but geeez I guess not huh"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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>.> the proposal is for normals onlyIn post 66, Isis wrote:I thought these would be fun to try out sometime but geeez I guess not huhretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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oh, yeah, I get that, just like 3-4 people expressed disdain and I wouldn't do one unless a full lobby was ok with it so it made me a bit sad
your points are all reasoned and stuff"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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plus it's a form of OOG I don't think should be allowed without special rulesIn post 0, DkKoba wrote:see title.
its not inclusive for deaf/HOH people
Some people can't understand spoken english
Gives advantage to hearing people in some cases
I forgot about this but since it was used in team mafia i wanted to push for it now that its over
I don't think this should be a controversial rule.
edit: for those that don't know what vocaroos are, they are a way to upload voice clips similar to how imgur is a site to upload images.
My reason why is someone's tone of voice could potentially be read, giving a townclear that probably shouldn't exist.<Embrace The Void>
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I have a really dubious Internet connection, and have images disabled on the mafiascum forums to save on bandwidth. So when people post in images, that's part of the game I'm missing. (I can try to load them if I really want to see them, but very rarely actually do.)In post 38, DkKoba wrote:the base assumption is if you're playing forum mafia, you don't have major issues with sight(i.e. being able to read a lot of posts in a reasonable amount of time).
So even when disabilities aren't involved, accessibility issues can still be a thing. (I've never looked at a video linked from / embedded in a MafiaScum game for similar reasons, and voice recordings would have the same issue.)scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- DkKoba
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that's fair. images tend to be at least loadable for bad connections(i know, ive had to deal with one before lol), but videos + audio def bad.In post 71, callforjudgement wrote:
I have a really dubious Internet connection, and have images disabled on the mafiascum forums to save on bandwidth. So when people post in images, that's part of the game I'm missing. (I can try to load them if I really want to see them, but very rarely actually do.)In post 38, DkKoba wrote:the base assumption is if you're playing forum mafia, you don't have major issues with sight(i.e. being able to read a lot of posts in a reasonable amount of time).
So even when disabilities aren't involved, accessibility issues can still be a thing. (I've never looked at a video linked from / embedded in a MafiaScum game for similar reasons, and voice recordings would have the same issue.)retired
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This should be banned sitewide. I don't want anyone listening to my voice. I explicitly don't post pictures of myself/audio recordings on forums for a reason. Don't ask me why, I just prefer to be secret like that. I know nobody would be forcing me to do it if it were allowed, but I don't want that to be part of the meta.- Jake The Wolfie
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