Stop the Grandesque Idea threads.

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Stop the Grandesque Idea threads.

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:32 am

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Grand Idea was originally created after Great, Greater, and Greatest Idea Mafia, a meat-world version of Grand Idea Mafia, were made duting scummeets. It was originally meant for silly and fun mafia games, in which everyone could participate by submitting their own role.

In more recent time however new Grandesque idea threads are appearing. These threads attempt to mimic and put a spin on Grand Idea in their own unique way. This is an issue because it's not only clogging up the Mafia Discussion Board, but it's also unnessecary. For example, take Normal Idea Mafia. The premise of this thread is to only create roles that would be allowed in a Normal game. This may sound good in theoey, but it is also pointless. No one signs up to a Grandesque Idea game to play with balanced roles, they sign up because of all the weird and wacky roles that come up.

No Idea Mafia is a thread with the purpose of creating rolea that would classify the game as bastard. That's fine and all, but why does this thread exist? Grand Idea is already bastard as-is, and you don't need a very creative mod to make it even more bastard.

Pretty much all Grandesque Idea threads are trying to remix a unique element about Grand Idea, the idea of uniqueness, that you may have an effect on some future game that runs from the Grand Idea thread, or that you can create any role that you want without consequence. It's Weird, Wacky, but still Grand. Something that the recent posers don't have.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:21 am

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yes yes and yes

besides i'll add one more point, one of the engaging things with grand idea is that the pool of roles is *big* if you want a more trackable thing, just run great idea / whatever nerd (the DoAR imo was fine as a one-off hybrid between great and grand)

meanwhile, i have trouble to see a big part of these new ideas reach even around 500, and let's not speak about running them, which i think makes them pretty pointless in the end
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:25 am

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Gotta admit I'm sat here with m thoughts like "ok does this idea go in this thread, or in this thread...."
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:45 am

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In post 2, Flea The Magician wrote:Gotta admit I'm sat here with m thoughts like "ok does this idea go in this thread, or in this thread...."
I guess you have No Idea™
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am

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i'll lock any grand threads i've made so they can bury themselves in the hierarchy (save for word disassociation, that is specifically generating roles for a mini theme i plan to run and will get locked and buried as soon as it finishes.) in the meantime i suggest we make new
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:20 am

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I'll probably keep DoAR up for now (I am considering locking it at 1000 however, as the premise is just "what if Grand Idea was designed for Greatest Idea play?"), and as for Planechase I'll keep it as it's a supplement collaborative deck.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:36 am

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Maybe they should be in Mish Mash.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:37 am

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6 replies 66 views *guitar riff*
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:39 am

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:32 am

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Oh true I didn't even think about that.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:37 am

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In post 6, Ythan wrote:Maybe they should be in Mish Mash.
No. They wouldn't fit there.

I still think the best solution is to make a dedicated subforum for them. It shouldn't be too hard to do, but then again, this forum has had very strange hierarchy problems, so creating a new one could break it again.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:42 am

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People seem to mostly just post in them as a game.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:19 pm

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You win when all the grand idea threads have been locked.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:05 pm

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In post 4, Cook wrote:i'll lock any grand threads i've made so they can bury themselves in the hierarchy
I really don't think this was necessary of you particularly considering idk is it premature to say discussion of a new home for these? But you also had an alternate suggestion so if you locked your threads to promote that more power to you.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:57 am

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the only vaguely engaging recent variant was Superb Idea
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:59 am

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although Normal Idea had a different form previously, and I think it could still be viable because of that
but the old version was pretty dumb imo, iirc every PR had like, a 1/10 chance of being ungated
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:04 pm

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I liked Astral Roles.

Make a new subforum for them maybe.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:38 am

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I really like the astral roles and the planechase deck, I am planning to use the planechase if I ever get my DnD Mafia games running
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:48 pm

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No. Let us re-invent the way we play mafia however we like. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:21 am

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you guys aren't even actually playing two thirds of these though
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 11, Ythan wrote:People seem to mostly just post in them as a game.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 19, Gypyx wrote:you guys aren't even actually playing two thirds of these though
We will at some point.
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