Open Project: Scum Shuffle

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Open Project: Scum Shuffle

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:41 am

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Due to recent discussion in the Changes to Normal Games thread I'd like to propose the following project:

Design Open games with Normal mechanics that allow scum to shuffle their roles before the game starts.


Based on this we'll have sample data for then talking about this for Normal.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:02 am

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Anormal Scum Exchange
13 players


1 Mafia Role Cop

1 Mafia Roleblocker

1 Mafia Goon

1 Town Cop

1 Town Doctor

1 Town Universal Backup

7 Vanilla Townies


Mafia picks roles during pregame. If Mafia fail to pick roles during pregame, the Mafia roles will be randomized.

This is otherwise a Normal setup with daytalk but no inherent multitasking.


quick and easy cop doctor setup, scum have two ways to defuse Follow The Cop but town has a UBackup
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:13 pm

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I literally made that exact same setup on another site. [without scum picking] The game didn't fill though.

I don't think this would ever be normal.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 2, T3 wrote:I literally made that exact same setup on another site. [without scum picking] The game didn't fill though.

I don't think this would ever be normal.
I think the scum picking might scumside the setup a bit but follow the cop is still worrying
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:51 am

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In post 2, T3 wrote:I literally made that exact same setup on another site. [without scum picking] The game didn't fill though.

I don't think this would ever be normal.
I don't think the goal here is to actually have something that can run in the normal queue, but just to design some interesting open setups.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:19 am

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Pick 5 seemed generally well received when I made it and has scum shuffling. To be honest though, I find it a bit uninteresting, which is maybe why I've never run it.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:47 pm

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In post 0, Cook wrote:Based on this we'll have sample data for then talking about this for Normal.
I'm not against this, but I would like to point out that balance in an open is very different from balance in a normal.
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