What would you include in a Normal Græylist?

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What would you include in a Normal Græylist?

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:27 pm

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an open ended question

what roles/mechanics would you want on a graylist?

also what rules for said graylist?
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:57 pm

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For a greylist it has to be pitched as a variation of an existing role. Also you get only 1 greylist for non-larges and 2 greylists for larges as Nprmal.

Good greylist roles: Venge, X-Hit, Mediator, Alignment Cop, Parity Cop (either definition works, though first-definition Parity Cops should get results in the form of Yellow and Blue or something else flavorless), Moonlight Dancer, Named, Gravedigger (a miller for action investigators, is seen by them as targeting all who died that night with the Mafia factional kill)

Things I'd add to the blacklist due to distorting Normal expectations: Supersaint, any and all Voting roles, Paranoid Gun Owner, Unclear Flavor Cops (if you want a Gunsmith variant, you need to list each role that gets positive results), Electrifier
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:43 pm

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I'm not familiar with the specific application of this term here and think it may be useful to define it or clarify that TL's post covers it for other ignoramuses like myself.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:45 pm

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I checked it is indeed ignoramuses.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:01 pm

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Please define "Graylist"
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 4, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Please define "Graylist"
Typically used for variants of existing Normal roles, you would be allowed to add 1 role from the Greylist to your Normal games. You would be allowed two Greylist roles in a Large Normal.

Disclaimer: The greylist is not currently Normal.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:01 pm

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For my graylist, I would want roles which are fun to have 1 or 2 of in a game, but not for the majority, or even powered majority to game.

For starters, I would allow some more neutraly roles to exist, such as the following:

Citizen - You wish to see the Mafia dead, but aren't a town member.
Scoundrel - You wish to see the Town dead, but aren't a mafia member.

Mercenary - You provide protection to X players, A, B, ... and C. If more than Y of your targets die, you will exit the game in a loss. You win if at least Y of your targets survive, even if you are dead.

Now for the actual roles, and not just alignments.

Redirector - Redirect your target from player A to player B. Your target will be notified about their new target.
Bus Driver - Bus Driver + Any players targeting players A or B will be notified about their new target.
(Optional: Allow all Power Roles to instead silently De-Activate their ability if Redirected.)

Named roles.

And let's add some modifiers because why not

Limited Deathproof (You cannot be 100% prevented from dying, otherwise your team might as well win outright)
Tree Stump (Initially starts out as alive, can at any time choose to become a tree stump. If they are killed before or during their choice, they will still die)
Auto-[Role] - A role which can only self-target. If the role in question is a protective role (such as a doctor), then it must be limited.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:16 pm

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Possibly hot take, but Condemner and Savior. They're not inherently bastard. Condemner might shift the meta unpredictably though so maybe just Savior.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:48 pm

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A+ on the ash in the title I never know which letter to use.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:54 pm

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ash, as in Jæk
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:09 am

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:04 am

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So a Mafia without their factional kill?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:23 pm

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Truly ån græy æxpæctåtion to put øn us.
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