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Describe the Playstyle Above You

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:17 pm
by skitzer
I decided to create this thread because it will show just what people think of you. It can also show what you need to improve on, and generally I don't think people are really getting themselves across when their posting.

You don't have to be nice, but be positive. We are trying to improve quality of games here.

Why You Should Post Here:

1. It helps get out what everyone's thinking and displays common thoughts.
2. It's like a fun Mish Mash game, only productive!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:22 pm
by Korts
The one game I played with you, very lurkish. Annoyed the heck out of me, since we were scumpartners. Still, it worked pretty fine up until you got caught on some faulty logic.

The things you gotta work on are thinking through arguments, and the thing that made you be that lynch in Desperate Mafia, don't lose your head. There's always some way to get what you want, you just have to keep at it.

This may be out of date, though, that was more than half a year ago I think.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:26 pm
by farside22
Korts: Both times I played with you, you were town and both times I felt you didn't really try and find scum except at the start of the game and then at the end. This can hurt the town as in what happened with hascows game and leave you guessing, see shaft's game. In shaft's game you were wrong and didn't look at the big picture. In hascow you got the big picture but it was too late. I feel you need to work more on the middle part of the game as hard as the start and end.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:51 pm
by shaft.ed
Farside22: As I've had the pleasure of mod'ing you in all of my games, I'd say your a good level headed townie (haven't see you as scum yet). I think your main hang up is that you can tend to make up your mind quickly on players, and I think this can color your later game perspective. Sometimes this plays well as in Monty Python/Pick a Player, other times it doesn't as in our Open Game and YAWYE. As far as reading you, you generally give off a strong town vibe from my perspective. This might make your scum game harder to pull off, but more effective when you do (and is my preferred playstyle).

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:27 pm
by Guardian
shaft.ed: Sneaky sneaky bastard. Can discuss any situation he finds himself in in a way that makes sense, explaining his actions as if they could only have had pro-town motivations. Is a decent determiner of scum and can persuasively argue to lynch town or scum; it seems that actual truth has very little to do with how well he can argue for a situation, making it hard for others to figure out whether the person he is attacking is worthy of attack, even if they know shaft.ed is town.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:59 pm
by Simenon
Oooh, this is fun.

Guardian: Very experimental. I remember when he faked that post restriction in Julius Caesar and posted in Haiku in Ork Mafia. He's very direct and logical, but also very emotional. As I recall, he's better at scum. He sometimes self-destructs as town, although that might be outdated.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:03 am
by PokerFace
<<Posting based on my old irc expierence with him sionce I ain't played with him on forum.

Probably has the best skills at bussing his teammates i ever seen when he is scum. I got lightly pressured on irc by a town player. He said "You know what your saying makes a little sence sutherlands. I'm going to look back and see if I can generate more of a case for a pf lynch. a couple minutes later sim had a huge case on me that got me lynched bigtime. Suth didn't even vote me he just fosed me and simienon looked at that, made a case and bussed me so hard and well I almost thought he was town. He coasted to endgame and won easy without ever getting voted outside of the random stage since everyone was so convinced he was town by his bus of me. If my role pm had not told me he was partner I would not have. Best busser ever so his dream role would probably be mafia usurper.

Rarely played with him when he was town. Liked to pressure people especially lurkers to get there real side out and see if a case should be built there. He doesn't lurk and likes to speed things up activity wise as town and this can play into his scum style since speed can catch people off guard sometimes.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7993
Here is a game of his I read once that has alot of what I talked about exhibited when he is scum.


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Edit: "In response to armlx's post below"
armlx wrote:Tends to be good at acting generally pro-town regardless of alignment, but tends to more support cases then make them from my experience. The support tends to be generally solid however.
I sometimes do this on purpose because case starters are killed more often than case supporters

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:42 am
by armlx
Tends to be good at acting generally pro-town regardless of alignment, but tends to more support cases then make them from my experience. The support tends to be generally solid however.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:08 am
by Max
armlx: seems to base a large amount off meta, I always seem to think you are scum and vice-versa, but is good at presenting strong cases often right, if they were better verbalised they would probably result in more lynches.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:14 am
by dahill1
only really joins experimental/changed rules games, not that that's a bad thing. i don't think i've ever played with you but from what i've seen you always seem to be actively lurking. that is, just gliding along with a few filler posts and not really generating too much content. usually seems to follow cases instead of building them

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:20 am
by DrippingGoofball
dahill1 is a clever, cautious player who strives to walk a tightrope and not step on to anyone's toes. That way, he actively avoids to make himself a target for scum kills, or vig kills. He is eager to strategize and takes the time to think things through.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:29 am
by Thestatusquo
Terrible.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:48 am
by Phate
Plays with alts. Better with town than scum, from what I've read. Active, at least in games he's interested in. Gives an impression of being slightly manic, especially early game, but is ready and sometimes willing to back his actions up with logic or good-sounding bullshit, and argue for it successfully. Gambits; likes traps. Tends to confuse newer players. Moderately abrasive.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:26 am
by hasdgfas
A bit lurkish from what I've seen. I haven't played too many games with you, but if you think about the games as much here as you do on IRC, you'd be very good. As is, I usually find you scummy in every forum game I've read of yours.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:30 pm
by icemanE
From what I remember has is a cow, all the time. Also a good and consistent mod.

Playstyle-wise: very town meta if you ask me. Haven't been in a game where I was overly suspicious of him, though I think I've only played two he was in.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:48 pm
by Taro Aso
Very good at staying scummy but not the most scummy. Doesn't seem to make his own case very often, and they don't seem to be ironclad when he makes them, but uses that as a springboard to following another wagon.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:52 pm
by Tarhalindur
Edit: Wait a minute, that's a BlakAdder alt. Give me a minute to update...

Sadly, you're still too new for me to have a good read on your playstyle. From what I can tell, you're noncommittal as town and very defensive as scum. Unfortunately, you need to die/Mafia 86 needs to end before I have a really good idea on your style...

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:12 pm
by Lord Gurgi
I don't know how you play, but I want to be in on this, so I'm just going to talk about your crazy modding. Mod Screw after all. You're very inventive, but sometimes you seem to go off the edge and over again.

Adel: I'll take that as a compliment. :)

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:35 pm
by Adel
You are like a young and innocent JDodge: slightly more active, slightly more townie as a baseline average, but not as good in endgame.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:07 pm
by BlakAdder
Tarhalindur wrote:Edit: Wait a minute, that's a BlakAdder alt. Give me a minute to update...
Who is? I don't have an alt.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:21 pm
by animorpherv1
BlakAdder wrote:
Tarhalindur wrote:Edit: Wait a minute, that's a BlakAdder alt. Give me a minute to update...
Who is? I don't have an alt.
PWNED

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:45 pm
by Porochaz
Adel wrote:You are like a young and innocent JDodge: slightly more active, slightly more townie as a baseline average, but not as good in endgame.
As this thread derailed very slightly Im going to do Adel based on her reputation, ideas and modding having never played with her. Her immense reputation on this site after only being here a shortish time is commendable and is held in high regard. Her idea's (the ones that dont involve killing kittens) are out there and usually offer alternative viewpoints to the norm and whilst a fair amount of the time I disagree she puts a well reasoned case up each time. She can be disturbing and occasionally take things to far, but as a regular member of GD, I just have to remember which threads shes posted in which I cant look at in public places... The modding of her themed game, Adel's Nightmare was very well done and frequently updated, if slightly too complex. However I highly suspect her mini normals are well, more normal.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:48 pm
by Adel
more than "slightly" too complex I'm afraid, but thanks!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:59 pm
by forbiddanlight
Adel, I've played one game with you and I forgot if I remember correctly you were town. Very theoretical and methodical in your play, come off as very smart, and seem to try to find a dataset to find scum rather than informal behavior analysis. This is probably more accurate but sounds like less fun :P.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:00 pm
by Natirasha
Adel, your just too analytical, I think it clouds your judgement when it comes to more logical thought processes. Take a step back and look at the big picture a bit more.