Newbie 1368 - Will there ever be a title? (GAME OVER)

[enomis]

^^^ I would say post 1001 should be a hammer.

[Syryana]

VOTE: RachMarie

[Grimgroove]

I'm not sure if he checked the topic, but I know for a fact Majiffy was online during this endphase, so it is possible he

chose

not to hammer.

pedit: Good!

[RachMarie]

Ahem I was not posting everywhere but here...

I had a day where I was not on the computer AT ALL.

And yesterday after dealing with mods stuffs and working my way down the line, I had to get off the computer before I could get to this one...


However GG town you found scum, and I tried but being sick definitely worked against me here.

[RachMarie]

After the game is over, I will give more IC pointers but I have to say you are a good bunch of players and I am just sorry I let you all down a bit.

[homertve]

However GG town you found scum

Woohoo!

[Edosurist]

VC 2.9

Grimgroove

(1): Majiffy

enomis

(1): Core_H86

Syryana

(1): RachMarie

RachMarie (4): Grimgroove, homertve, enomis, Syryana

RachMarie,

Mafia Rolecop

, has been lynched Day 2!

I need all Night 2 night actions within

(expired on 2013-07-07 17:42:00)

[Edosurist]

No one has been found dead Night 2!

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 3 ends in

(expired on 2013-07-21 18:49:00)

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[Majiffy]

Either Syryana or Core. GG

VOTE: Core

[Grimgroove]

I was thinking more along the lines of you, Majiffy.

[Majiffy]

Vote me, you will only lynch a townie.

[enomis]

Should we no lynch today? I am thinking it will give cop another night to inv if maf nk which is very unlikely, jail keeper who jail keeped the scum (if there is a jail keeper, should they out who they jail keep?) To confirm they jail keep the right person, just a townie where there is no harm no lynching and also a less likely possibility.

[Majiffy]

Not with one scum down. We're looking at 5 v 1, which gives us 2 mislynches, and more information than skipping a day or two and letting cop invo.

[enomis]

How the hell do we have 2 mislynches? After one more lynch, we are down to 4 which is basically lylo..

[Grimgroove]

Either Syryana or Core. GG

VOTE: Core

How can you even think for a minute Syryana is scum after Rach's flip? Haven't you seen their interactions?

Core has become a possibility however. He claimed intent to hammer, but never came online after that intent and before the deadline. Will have to look at their itneractions more closely.

I also don't understand why you guys are bringing up a cop. Why is this the first thing you think of?

If there is a cop, it is evident that he should expose himself and both of his reads now. That puts 3 people out of the discussions, and with a bit of luck it adds well to the reads of the townpeople.

But the first think I'd think of after tonight is a jailkeeper. Or scum deciding to not kill, hoping there is no more power role in the game, so the remaining scum can claim jailkeeper and play a bit of poker.

ISO'ing RachMarie is a must now. It's the first to-do after a scum has flipped.

[enomis]

Scum nking is a very bad move becuz if we have a cop, they are fucked.

[Grimgroove]

Are you still the same enomis? your posting style seems to have changed considerably?

I'm reading enomis as town now by the way. His L-1 on Rach was crucial to getting her lynched, the alternative could have easily ended up in a stalemate with nobody the wiser.

Reading Core's posts he really seemed very intent on moving the wagon away from RachMarie and on to enomis. Core lost his strong townread.

Buit MAjiffy remains my number 1 suspect for the time being.

[Grimgroove]

Scum nking is a very bad move becuz if we have a cop, they are fucked.

Then why do you assume there's a cop?
If you believe the above argument, the only way a kill didn't happen was a jailkeeper. Given there's already a dead doctor,t here's no way there's both a jailkeeper and a cop right now.

[enomis]

? What do you mean my posting style change? I dunnoe. Maybe I am a chameleon I just post what I think. And I find thatvmy posting styles usually adapt itself to the game. So maybe it changed but I dunnoe.

What do you think about no lynching?

@grim: I did admit there may be jk. Thats why I was thinking we no lynch and let the jk double confirm if his target is scum. And scum cant cont to nk becuz if there is cop, hr is fked. And we lose nothing by no lynching

[Grimgroove]

About your style: you normally use full words and better spelling. MAybe you're posting from a phone or something? Seems very different to me at least.

About the no lynch-plan, it is something to consider I'd say. If anything, your plan does strentghen my townread on you, because it does sound like something that could put scum in a thight spot.

There is an obvious problem with the double confirmation by the jailkeeper though. In case the jailkeeper targetted the victim and not the killer, the killer could choose to no-kill the next night, and get the previous target lynched because it will be considered a double-confirmation, and out the jailkeeper in the process and kill him the night after, leaving us in LyLo.

But it's not a bad plan.

[enomis]

Yep. I am posting from phone. Maybe the jail keeper do wifom and jailkeep someone else instead? We dont know what he will do if there is such a role.

[Grimgroove]

It's up to the jailkeeper really, and how he made his choice.
If he jailkept someone of whom he thought he would be targetted by scum, he should keep still.
If he targetted someone of whom he thought he was scum, he should speak up.

If he keeps still, it makes enomis' plan less useful because of the scenario described above.

For instance, if the Jailkeeper tells us he JailKept Majiffy, there'd be no doubt in my mind that Majiffy should be lynched. Because there's no way MAjiffy would be the target of a nightkill.

But if the Jailkeeper jailkept homertve for example, things wouldn't be as clear-cut, and the JK4s information wouldn't be valuable enough compared to the loss of his secret identity.

[enomis]

Yep the more I think, the more I like my plan.
VOTE: no lynch

[homertve]

I'm reading enomis as town now by the way. His L-1 on Rach was crucial to getting her lynched, the alternative could have easily ended up in a stalemate with nobody the wiser.

About that - I don't see it that way at all. I see it as bussing. I think that if he wouldn't do that, we could lynch her anyway with Majiffy's or core's help (if I'm right about enomis being Rach's scum partner. If not, we could have done it with one of them). At that point he knew they were losing the battle, and that long post could give him some town points, which it did, btw, at least in Grim's book.

Also, I don't like his NL plan. It gives the remaining scum another shot at us, with him being safe of a lynch. And if we do get lucky again tonight (in case of a misslynch), it will give us another possibility for a misslynch.

VOTE: enomis

[Syryana]

Best course would be to lynch someone toDay, then if the game isn't won no-lynch tomorrow to get to 3P lylo. That way it leaves us the best possible chance of finding scum in LyLo.

As to whether the lack of a kill was due to a JK's actions or scum attempting shenanigans, only time will tell.

I've no idea who I want lynched toDay though. Need to reread things.