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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:56 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1198, Creature wrote:giga, I think you owe me a wall.


quoting this so i can refer back to it

i owe cassie thoughts on creature's D2 (general thoughts are ??? he's hitting his personal towntells but Wave-skim (haven't finished, i just got to when creature replaced in but he doesn't feel super town) makes me a little paranoid that i just got really cocky with my super-mathematically-proven-scumhunting techniques)

and creature and cassie schadd_?

Raskolnikov wrote::(

Sorry to hear that


nbd it's just something i gotta deal with

RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't have much to say about this game. I just want to see Creature lynched.


fair enough tbh

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:57 pm
by mattblackguy
Giga who do you think would be the best person to lynch today?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:57 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1301, mattblackguy wrote:Giga who do you think would be the best person to lynch today?


at the moment casielle but i really need the weekend to re-read, write out my thoughts, and stuff like that

i don't want to slow the game down but i'm far from ready for a lynch

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:59 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1190, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1187, Creature wrote:
In post 1177, -Grey- wrote:Preflip associatives are trash, people.

First, flip scum. THEN find their partner.

Yeah, though we need to find scum first.

We have, but you don't want to bus.

Instead, you'd rather throw out scumreads with no reasons behind them and discredit your buddy's wagon.


when did you start scumreading creature? this feels really out of left-field

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:59 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1191, Creature wrote:tbh schadd_ flipping town would also help.


coming from literally anyone else i would vote creature as soon as i saw this but this is such a town!creature post i hate it

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:00 pm
by Creature
In post 1237, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1231, Raskolnikov wrote:grey can i get a reads list

If I had one, sure.

At this point, all I know for sure is that I don't want to lynch you or Creature.

RC is fishing for lynches here, and I'm getting fed up with it.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:01 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
bwuh

?????????????????????

didn't he just say he was townreading me or at least heavily insinuate it??

grey your brand of assholery needs explanation please and ty

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:02 pm
by Creature
I feel like I'm supposed to have a Post Explosion (see my wiki), but I don't feel inspired to make it.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:05 pm
by schadd_
In post 1300, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:and creature and cassie schadd_?

?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:06 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1251, schadd_ wrote:-grey-: i'm leaning town. we have someone on dominion forum that's very similar (argumentative, likes to tick people off, pulls shit like 1131) and he is more helpful and easy to deal with as scum, to the point of being a tell. obv they're different people though, but that's the parallel that i have


this is really spot on for grey tbh but it's far from a surefire tell if that makes sense

his townread of me is still icky

schadd_ wrote:
In post 1300, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:and creature and cassie schadd_?

?


they want me to write a wall about how literally every post you write bleeds town

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:08 pm
by mattblackguy
In post 1303, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 1190, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1187, Creature wrote:
In post 1177, -Grey- wrote:Preflip associatives are trash, people.

First, flip scum. THEN find their partner.

Yeah, though we need to find scum first.

We have, but you don't want to bus.

Instead, you'd rather throw out scumreads with no reasons behind them and discredit your buddy's wagon.


when did you start scumreading creature? this feels really out of left-field

In post 1305, Creature wrote:
In post 1237, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1231, Raskolnikov wrote:grey can i get a reads list

If I had one, sure.

At this point, all I know for sure is that I don't want to lynch you or Creature.

RC is fishing for lynches here, and I'm getting fed up with it.


Oh shit I can't believe I didn't notice this.

VOTE: Grey

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:10 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1267, Raskolnikov wrote:townbloc with threatening people (SEs) and nightkill within it to trim the numbers


i dont think it's an effective strategy, or at least for someone like me

i've only played scum once and it was a really easy game because town had a death wish and refused to lynch scum

so basically i have 0 confidence in my ability to persuade people to keep going when i'm clearly pushing the game in the wrong direction, which is what such a strategy entails (sticking to your guns for basically the whole game)

speaking of how i'd approach this game as scum i want creature to elaborate on why he thinks this can't be scumplay based on my one game? usually when people have meta reads like that i want to know how legit it is

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:11 pm
by mattblackguy
Giga, isn't Grey like conf scum now?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:12 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1279, Raskolnikov wrote:I know the explanation for the read on you is pretty accurate from my own experience. A lot of those are similar tells to how I read you.

But I don't think faking townreads is particularly difficult, if you have experience with a player especially and know their meta. If based on past games the expectation is for them to easily read you I don't see the read as anything unexpected, especially if there was the incentive of trying to buddy as well.


agreed w/ the sentiment here in general

do you think my townread on creature has been used to buddy him?

mattblackguy wrote:Giga, isn't Grey like conf scum now?


no not really

but that was a pretty awful set of posts

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:14 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
literally every slot in this game that isn't conftown is what i call a "frog-in-a-blender" read

constantly moving at 500 mph

red and green. red and green.

@rask is there anything you want to ask me that i can answer quickly (like not in a wall post)?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:14 pm
by schadd_
In post 1312, mattblackguy wrote:Giga, isn't Grey like conf scum now?

nop. my guy that i'm comparing him to will do that thing, addressing someone as scum, while being like "nah they're town." it's still possible to be scum that forgot his reads tho

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:14 pm
by schadd_
In post 1314, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:literally every slot in this game that isn't conftown is what i call a "frog-in-a-blender" read

constantly moving at 500 mph

red and green. red and green.

gah

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:16 pm
by mattblackguy
I still think Grey is scum, and just fucked up really bad.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:16 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1316, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1314, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:literally every slot in this game that isn't conftown is what i call a "frog-in-a-blender" read

constantly moving at 500 mph

red and green. red and green.

gah


except you tbh

also matt why did you ask ?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:20 pm
by mattblackguy
In post 1318, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also matt why did you ask 1312?


I wanted to see if you would try to defend him or not.

I still don't see how a townie can call someone scum, and then a little later say that they don't want to lynch the person they called scum.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:22 pm
by cassielle
wrt gbT:'s thoughts thus far on creature d2: waiting for rask to talk about it, i really want conftown's thoughts more than yours tbh

wrt mbg/rc scumteam: i see it from matt in a sense but the same is true when it comes to a large amount of the players here tbh-- HOWEVER!
however, mbg has been pushing for lynches with a bit more invective on the side when it comes to the lurkslots of d1. see: when RC questions TB on schadd_ wagon and and compare to 99.9999% of mbg's ISO

mbg doesnt get that sort of acid in his tone outside of pushing for d1 lurk slot lynches (e.g. tb, shade/-grey-). hell, even i dont get the same sort of reactions from mbg when he pushes on my slot. thoughts guys?

ftr: i dont agree that mbg matches well with rc, because rc doesnt feel scum to me atm

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:23 pm
by mattblackguy
In post 1315, schadd_ wrote:nop. my guy that i'm comparing him to will do that thing, addressing someone as scum, while being like "nah they're town."


As a joke or being serious? Because it didn't look like Grey was joking.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:24 pm
by cassielle
EBWOP: (e.g. tb, shade, -grey-), not shade/-grey-

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:27 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 1319, mattblackguy wrote:
In post 1318, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also matt why did you ask 1312?


I wanted to see if you would try to defend him or not.

I still don't see how a townie can call someone scum, and then a little later say that they don't want to lynch the person they called scum.


why would i defend him if i pointed out the initial inconsistency though? dgi

also cassie i'm basically on the same page wrt matt/rc. plus matt's last few posts are kinda..............

i think jumping from voting me and saying {creature/grey} buddy the next day to voting grey over a perceived scumslip is just such an "easy" thing to do i would totally expect it from newbscum, and 1312 just pinged tf out of me

rask what are your thoughts here

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:29 pm
by -Grey-
In post 1303, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 1190, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1187, Creature wrote:
In post 1177, -Grey- wrote:Preflip associatives are trash, people.

First, flip scum. THEN find their partner.

Yeah, though we need to find scum first.

We have, but you don't want to bus.

Instead, you'd rather throw out scumreads with no reasons behind them and discredit your buddy's wagon.


when did you start scumreading creature? this feels really out of left-field

I was being snarky.