Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

[mattblackguy]

Matt decided to bus.

If that makes town lynch RC then sure

[mattblackguy]

But seriously though after we lynch RC. Rask tracks Schadd then we win.

[Raskolnikov]

Guys you can't just say people are scum and not use arguments that defeats the purpose of the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Rask if I get lynched today will you lynch MBG then Creature?

[mattblackguy]

Rask if I get lynched today will you lynch MBG then Creature?

Why would he lynch me after you flip scum?

[Raskolnikov]

Idk why is it mbg+creature?

[cassielle]

...yeah i dont understand mbg here at all and im calling this confscum

this is an indefensible push on a slot thats clearly weak to pushes (as ive already pointed out more than once) and i cannot see any town reason for not sharing his arguments with the rest of the players

literally nothing but "OH HEY GAMESOLVED LYNCH THESE" with nothing to back it up and no reason to buy into the reasoning

do you really expect town to sheep you because "lol the scumteam" come on man

VOTE: mattblackguy

p-edit: mbg is really pushing this hard and considering his pushes on other unpopular slots (one conftown) also shared this sort of venomous tone which isnt at all in keeping with the rest of his ISO, im more and more certain of this

and @ rask imo its a tossup between creature and schadd_ for the partner but mbg is defo

[RadiantCowbells]

Because no one else is scum.

Why would he lynch me after you flip scum?

This quote is something I've seen a billion times from scum but I can't remember seeing it from town.

[Raskolnikov]

Okay I won't lie I can definitely see it from today's posting on "grey being right"

I think maybe the extended day might've wore him out or something

[Raskolnikov]

tho even then idk if he'd be with creature

[-Grey-]

Matt's flip makes no sense.

He went from voting me in 1310 to saying I called the entire scumteam and voting with me in 1345.

At this point, I'd rather see his flip than RC's.

VOTE: matt

[cassielle]

mbg doesnt really engage creature actively, theres little discussion between them (poss distancing? also poss NAI, creature doesnt give anyone much to chew on)

on the other hand mbg and -grey- and mbg and schadd_ also make equally as much sense. not so much distancing there though, just a matter of general interactions among those slots. i feel mbg+schadd_ is more likely than mbg+creature on a quick doublecheck

i dont see an mbg + rc team in any universe, and an mbg+gbT team feels like a HUGE stretch -- possible but theyd have to both be playing really well. that narrows it down pretty damn well tbh depending on how -grey- creature and schadd_ react to this turn of events

p-edit: -grey- doesnt feel like scum bussing but im not 100% on this

it DOES read strong town though still, so im confident taking grey off that list

creature and schadd_'s reactions are gonna make a world of difference here

[Raskolnikov]

How bizarre though, matt looked so good before. He even like meta'd me...

Maybe he can explain this turn.

[mattblackguy]

Maybe he can explain this turn.

Yup. I'm putting together how rc, and schadd are scum now.

[-Grey-]

UNVOTE:

This should be interesting.

[Raskolnikov]

Well if you're putting it together and have a huge relevation it be pretty easy to express what you're thinking

just be transparent

[mattblackguy]

I need to get the quotes and shit

[Raskolnikov]

I mean the obvious thing supporting that would be the d1 hammer but the implication is there's more to it than that

[Raskolnikov]

but I dont get how you're saying it like grey solved it when grey's been pushing you/rc and earlier today cass, not schadd/rc

like what

[cassielle]

i didnt like the d1 hammer but im not seeing it from a scum mindset, so many players saying out right theyll jump the gun on anyone who hammers w/o further consideration? its a suicide play unless youre REALLY SUPER CONFIDENT that you can convince all of them not to lynch you on principle

makes more sense from panicking town seeing a top town read under danger from scumhammer

p-edit: im the one pushing the schadd_ wagon today but -grey- started it d1 so that part checks out

feels like massive buddying tho

[Raskolnikov]

Well shit, Grey was right. He found both scum, Schadd day 1, and RC day 2.

I played like his shit this game, but at least we won. Hopefully I'll play better in my next game.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

this is just baffling in every sense because im not sure how you make the conclusion but also you ramp up to certainty level 100 and the game is finished, you won and you want to play better next time

this is so confusing

[RadiantCowbells]

Like something had to have triggered it and it feels to me like the most likely trigger is that he's scared that Creature is going to get lynched so he went all in.

[cassielle]

read as scum rask.
1: casts doubt on own play so when they flip town he can explain it away as "oh... well... i guess i was wrong!" and it tracks
2: have max certainty to see if you can get people to sheep you. there have been a couple examples of what OUTWARDLY appears to be this in this game (re: rc, gbT) but they also had good arguments presented laconically. noobscum might get the wrong impression

[cassielle]

EBWOP: radiant also makes a good point

[cassielle]

wild ass guess: mbg will hold true to his meta this game thus far and present a lot of cogent arguments solely harvested from other people, no original reasoning