Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

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Post Post #1475  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:03 pm

gosh he reads pretty similar in that game to this one; a lot of asking questions, not really explaining reads at all (he pointed to a post one time but then said "this just solidifies my read"), commenting on gamestate. and, incidentally, initially scumreading tb but then townreading him at the end of the day. and also, incidentally, claiming somebody solved the game d1 at the beginning

In post 1473, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
schadd_ wrote:...but that is a creamy-ass p-value

i can do a statistically accurate test to show that post count is alignment indicative for him btw (i think it's like a p value of .002 of it not being AI)

yes i saw. creamy af
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Post Post #1476  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:06 pm

In post 1475, schadd_ wrote:gosh he reads pretty similar in that game to this one; a lot of asking questions, not really explaining reads at all (he pointed to a post one time but then said "this just solidifies my read"), commenting on gamestate. and, incidentally, initially scumreading tb but then townreading him at the end of the day. and also, incidentally, claiming somebody solved the game d1 at the beginning


the content is similar yes but the engagement is different here

look at the timestamps

that creature lurked the fuck out and just said nonsense that wasn't creature gamesolving that looks like nonsense to other people

creature here is at least more invested

especially day 1 this game?

also the rvs vote isn't statistically accurate/meaningful i'd have to do a 2-sample t test to show that not whatever the fuck i did (i couldnt think of something to bs so i just plotted data on a normal curve lol it makes 0 sense)
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Post Post #1477  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:10 pm

also speaking of #scumhuntingwithstatistics creature's post percentage is literally at that sweetspot where he could be either alignment

:dead:

when i compiled that data i was actually looking forward to not having to actually read-read creature's posts to get a read on him
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Post Post #1478  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:23 pm

i feel like there's something i'm forgetting to do
i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess

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Post Post #1479  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:42 pm

Hello my scummy friends

hey gigabyte how do you expect something like that to work if you bring it up
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Post Post #1480  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:43 pm

That's why I never told FA for a long time that literally every time she was scum after I pushed on her she would say GET OUT OF HERE!!!
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Post Post #1481  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:43 pm

If I was creature I would just post more and get cleared by your silly system lol.

Maybe he was going to post less but he posted a little more because he was aware and that's why it's inconclusive
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Post Post #1482  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:44 pm

In post 1479, Raskolnikov wrote:Hello my scummy friends

hey gigabyte how do you expect something like that to work if you bring it up


creature constantly mentions it being a tell of his

so like

he's already self-conscious of it

at least that was the logic i initially ran off of

now i'm not really sure and i probably ruined an otherwise useful tool

RadiantCowbells wrote:That's why I never told FA for a long time that literally every time she was scum after I pushed on her she would say GET OUT OF HERE!!!


word for word? jesus

Raskolnikov wrote:If I was creature I would just post more and get cleared by your silly system lol.

Maybe he was going to post less but he posted a little more because he was aware and that's why it's inconclusive


i *think* i can tell the difference between creature filler that he uses as scum

like he tried to argue that in the game i was talking about before

((at this point though it's kind of a dead horse we're beating on here))
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Post Post #1483  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:45 pm

So RC was the townclaim the tell you were referring to when you said it was only ever wrong once and by someone etc etc etc plot's game
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Post Post #1484  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:52 pm

No, it wasn't, and I have no interest in sharing it publicly. I could give it to you privately after this game though.
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Post Post #1485  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:57 pm

Yeah didn't look like it.

It seems we have some parallel construction going on hmmmmmm.
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Post Post #1486  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:01 pm

Do you think that we're scumpartners, conferred on a towncase for shadd, then decided okay on January 20th we'll both come out with it at the same time?
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Post Post #1487  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:03 pm

Would that be a first?
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Post Post #1488  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:04 pm

Cuz I know that me/GBT was the scumteam that you were considering earlier. Actually yes it would be but I'm always reinventing my scumplay so.
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Post Post #1489  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:24 pm

Do you think creature's brave enough to straight up defend mbg like he has?
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Post Post #1490  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:30 pm

I don't think either of them have a choice but to be as brazen as they do right now.
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Post Post #1491  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:30 pm

That said, I am not 100% confident that Creature is the scumbuddy here.
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Post Post #1492  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:33 pm

How confident are you that matt flips scum?
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Post Post #1493  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:41 pm

100%. MattBlackGuy's play has made literally no sense as town, the Schadd/RC scumteam idea is the kind of lazy and insanely surface level shit that scum try to push, and this whole spasm out to push on me reeks of scum getting scared of me and going in a last ditch effort to lynch me. Scum do this to me a lot.

Note that Schadd had support and I didn't but instead of voting the Schadd part of the 100% confirmed scumteam he chose to start AtEing and call for a lynch on himself. That should show you at, the very least, that the only person that he's trying to lynch today is me.
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Post Post #1494  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:44 pm

- VoteCount 2.8 -
With 8 players still alive, it's 5 to lynch!


[L-2] mattblackguy - RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, gigabyteTroubadour
[L-4] -Grey- - Raskolnikov
[L-4] schadd - Creature
[L-4] RadiantCowbells - mattblackguy
[L-5] Raskolnikov -
[L-5] gigabyteTroubadour -
[L-4] Creature - schadd_
[L-5] Cassielle -

Not Voting - Cassielle

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-01-28 20:00:00)
4-8-15-16-23-42

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Post Post #1495  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:44 pm

But you weren't pushing matt?
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Post Post #1496  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:46 pm

It also heavily points to someone who is experienced with me (GBT/Creature) being his scumpartner because that behaviour makes more sense if his buddy told him to watch out for me and he eventually panicked.

But you weren't pushing matt?


No, I wasn't. He wasn't even on my radar. That's why I suggest Creature for scumbuddy, because it adds up, or he could have just built up pressure on himself because of how townread he was then cracked.
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Post Post #1497  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:47 pm

hmmmmm.

interesting indeed.

rask, would you mind dropping me another spur of the moment opinion on ?

humor me

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Post Post #1498  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:48 pm

My concern here is the "this is a reaction to something I've done!" cw logic which is very titus-esque. Usually I see her tunnelling town as a result of it though.
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Post Post #1499  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:52 pm

This one game she declared scum as town because there wasn't a cw (scum double bussed), next day pushed on whoever was pushing her because "scum want to lynch me", then on d3 interpreted a no-result as a guilty onto someone and assumed they were scum because people pushed her... for assuming a no-result was a guilty. All parties involved being town. She was even a PR but I kept her alive day after day because she kept using that sort of logic onto town :D
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