Newbie 1781 - Game over

rb · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:17 pm

@Fykus, 2 questions

1. how are you so certain Lemons is scum?
2. how are you so certain I'm Lemons' partner?

I actually can't find a single reason that you'd be so sure of this and tunneling me and viewing my attitude as 'distancing'.

rb · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:20 pm

Actually lmfao, all he's done is ride the train since Loopdan came in and said that people should vote either me or Destro, places his vote on me and then suddenly he's completely certain that I'm scum with lemons based on these two things.

But then he acknowledges Lemons actually DID claim/not claim BP, and somehow, he still has Lemons/rb as his top2 scumreads - instead of re-evaluating based on the fact that Lemons DID claim.

So again: if it's on the basis of claims, why is Lemons still scum when you apparently made a mistake and missed his claim? How would that still make Lemons scum and me their partner? Huehue.

Tarkus · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:28 pm

Whew I was worried you gave up on this game and we were going to mislynch without getting your reads.

Tarkus · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:29 pm

I'm only half here so don't expect too much from me until tomorrow morning thx

Tarkus · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:30 pm

VOTE: Fykus

rb · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:01 pm

I don't give up but I do get frustrated when people focus on minute details that are ultimately irrelevant to the game.

Loopdan · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:10 am

@ICrb-- Given the situation we are now in, and with no BP claim, should everyone claim or no claim tracker? I think tracker claims should generally follow everyone no-claiming BP, as if there is a tracker we have tracker-doc and then the doc knows who to protect at night. But things have changed now and we are four days from deadline. Now I'm thinking we shouldn't have tracker (if there is one) claim. Your thoughts?

To everyone: Do not claim or even hint at

any

power roles you may have. Also do not even hint that you

don't

have a power role.

@rb-- I'd also like your thoughts on Creature.

Creature · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:10 am

VOTE: Fykus

Huntress · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:22 am

Vote Count 1.10rb (2) - Fykus, Sagittarius
Pyra (2) - Aatami, Loopdan
Fykus (2) - Tarkus, Creature
Creature (1) - Pyra
Sagittarius (1) - rb

Not voting (1) - EccentricLemon

With nine players alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Wednesday, 22nd March 4.30 pm GMT, (in (expired on 2017-03-22 16:30:00)).

Just a reminder:

In post 1, Huntress wrote:1. This is a game. Have fun. Play to win but
please don’t make personal attacks or use derogatory language
. Just play your part and help to make the game fun for everyone!

Creature · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:24 am

Can we put a wagon to L-2 (or even L-1)?

Creature · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:24 am

EccentricLemon, where's your vote?

Creature · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:25 am

Aatami, Loopdan, do you actually scumread Destro/Pyra or are you voting him because they didn't BP/not BP claim earlier?

Creature · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:26 am

Sagittarius, what other scumreads do you have?

Loopdan · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:29 am

In post 386, Creature wrote:Aatami, Loopdan, do you actually scumread Destro/Pyra or are you voting him because they didn't BP/not BP claim earlier?

The latter. Forgot to move it.

VOTE: Lemon

Loopdan · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:29 am

@Creature-- Your thoughts on my IC question to rb above?

Creature · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:30 am

I don't really care for tracker claim rn.

Creature · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:31 am

Can we wagon Fykus? I feel like he's one of the players coasting over the looming deadline.

Creature · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:31 am

It's pretty weird you voted EccentricLemon over one of these two-man wagons. Do you townread all of them?

Sagittarius · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:09 am

rb: You're misunderstanding me.

In post 328, Sagittarius wrote:rb: You had two distinct opportunities to protest against the strategy in 82 and 97. You ignored both. And Tarkus' post should've told you he misinterpreted your disagreement with confusion, but you didn't correct him. You clearly didn't intend to discourage the strategy at that point.

I'm not talking about whether or not people claimed. I'm talking about why you didn't discourage the strategy, when you were here, even if you are so against it. Regardless of how many people claimed, if you're against it, you should say something about it, no? Your "expression of dislike" was only "i have no idea why we're bp claiming" which is arguably not an expression of dislike at all because it can be misinterpreted as confusion and was, by Tarkus in 97, which you quoted in 119, so you must've seen it, but you didn't correct it, so I'm thinking you have ulterior motives here. You replied to 82 with 83 and didn't say anything about "the new meta" when you could've said anything like "the new meta is bad." You can think this case is shit, but is it clearer now?

Uhh gotta go I was going to add more stuff but it'll have to wait.

Creature: Here's my current list, ignoring pre-flip associations.

Aatami
Loopdan
Pyra
EccentricLemon
Tarkus
Creature
Fykus
rb

have 1 sec to tack this on or something but uhh re: fykus: yeeaaaah I looked over his ISO and it's not really rubbing good on me, something something buddying with loopdan, something something tone I'll elaborate later when I have time bye

Tarkus · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:54 am

Ignoring pre-flip associations is an awfully convenient way to ignore that one of your scumreads is wrong. Fykus/rb isn't the team.

Tarkus · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:56 am

@fykus why did you change your vote to rb? You were 90% sure that destro was scum, your vote was on him already, and he hadn't shown up to claim or been replaced yet.

Creature · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:06 am

I'll take that as towniest to scummiest list.

Why do you townread Loopdan?

Tarkus · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:14 am

Following up @Sagittarius, not saying that you need to change your reads based on possible teams. I get that you think they're independently the scummiest. But you realize what I'm saying, yeah?

Looking back on rb, I don't see scum motivation behind any of it really. I think he makes the same play, town or scum, and possibly fake claims if he's scum.

Tarkus · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:31 am

Oh and why do you scumread creature?

Sagittarius · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:01 am

Tarkus: No, I'm not following. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I scumread two people then I townread the others because there are only two scum slots. Doesn't mean I won't ever change them and I'm open to hearing why I'm wrong. I don't see what is preventing a rb/Fykus team either but if you have quotes to support it go ahead.

As for Creature, he's actually pretty null in terms of personal opinion, town in terms of reads for the reason I said earlier. I don't have him higher up because I don't like how he seems to be doing his own thing but I don't have him as scum because idk if it's a gripe with his playstyle or if it's something legitimately scummy.

Creature: Why not? I think he's being pretty transparent about what he's trying to do and I like transparency. Good players can fake it but it's kind of stupid to trash a read just because of "what ifs." Sometimes the easiest explanation is the right one.