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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:17 am

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NotNova,
Mafia Roleblocker
, concedes Day 3.

Town wins!
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:18 am

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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:25 am

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As an important note, concessions aren't really a thing in Mafia. In fact, they're arguably against site rules, which require all players to play to win at all times. If you're the last member of a faction and they've got you dead-to-rights, the best thing is to just wait for them to go through the process of lynching you and hope something somehow distracts them or makes them fail to successfully lynch. While I normally would not accept a concession as a result, I accepted it here because it was already announced in-thread and there was only one Mafia left alive. There was no point in making you finish the process of voting, since Mafia has already announced themselves in-thread.

In this case, though, there actually
was
a potential way out of this scenario, in my opinion. Simply claim the Mafia must have targeted Mala's protection target, not been blocked by Roo. That's certainly plausible; Alonzo looked very town. Try to lynch one of the two remaining unconfirmed townies (Reaper, Thespio). Then, the next night, roleblock Roo and kill Malakittens. Claim you're cleared because Roo targeted you with jailkeeper again (which they almost certainly would). The margin for victory is slim, but you hadn't been definitively outed as scum yet. There were other possible explanations for the results that were present.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:45 am

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I apologize, I've seen it done in my very first game and I didn't see any complaints about it.

As far as I'm concerned I should always gets flipped today and there was enough consensus that I didn't think there was ever a world I bullshit my way out of it.

Say we accept your scenario. There are two cleared town; Mala and Roo, as I can never counterclaim to win.
I somehow sell the story Alonzo was targeted and one of Roo or Thespio gets lynched.
N3 I do what you said — it's between me and say Thespio, with Roo and Lonzo alive. I can't sell the story that I am clear because town knows there's a RBer with both PRs outed. Then I have to convince Roo (who jailed me with a no-kill result) that Thespio/Reaper is the real scum.

That's a lot of hoops to have to jump through. As far as I'm concerned the writing was on the wall, even if town somehow rejects the IMO optimal strategy of lynching the JK target. :/
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:05 am

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GG. I'm sure you could have hung that Reaper guy. He was just after souls anyway. I KNEW FF was scum when he wasted the end of first day badgering me instead of actually looking for scum. And then the 'vanity lynch' comment.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:26 am

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Good game all, glad the town was able to recover and have a good day 2. And yeah Reaper, FF badgering you on day 1 helped me decide not to make you the night 2 target. Hope to see everyone in more games in the future.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:00 am

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Gg guys. You all did well
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:09 am

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Bam
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:45 pm

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I almost replaced into Trendall's slot, but FormerFish beat me to the punch by a few minutes. :D

Looks like it was a really good game though! And NotNova, it looks like you are getting a lot of experience to work on your scum game. Two scum games in a row! I bet you are ready to get back to playing town again.

And now that I know how capable you are of mimicking your town game as scum, I don't think I will ever be able to trust you again! :shifty:
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:07 pm

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Scumming with you would without a doubt be a very interesting experience, Volxen ;)

SvS imitation of my original deathtunnel?
I'd die to see that :)
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:28 am

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I don't think VC has forgiven us yet =)
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 685, Alonzo wrote:I don't think VC has forgiven us yet =)
We were popular in that scum pt, gg Alonzo
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:21 am

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gg thes
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:31 am

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Gg everyone. I have no hard feelings it's just a game lol

Just glad I was right in my d1 push lol
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:45 am

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In post 688, VeridianCleric wrote:Gg everyone. I have no hard feelings it's just a game lol

Just glad I was right in my d1 push lol
Yes you were.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:33 am

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