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Post Post #500  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:54 am

Mobilepost.
I have only took a look at this page. I think Jay is scum.
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Post Post #501  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:55 am

F-ck that.
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Post Post #502  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:56 am

In post 478, Creature wrote:
In post 473, profii wrote:
In post 470, JaydragonKing wrote:I'm not dodging, just skillfully ignoring. The way of Elsa is powerful.

To profii, I'm just a nice person in general, so I'm giving it a second chance. Besides, the first wagon isnt usually scum, from what I've heard from players I've played with. And someone will be more willing to actually replace into the slot if there's a chance of survival, so that's another one.

Does it bother you if I

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

Just to fill the void you left there and keep the pressure on the slot?

Keep pressure on an empty slot?


It's an empty slot, yes. But the manner of how it's come about is what is telling here. I'm in a catch 22 situation regarding it. We can either back off, and allow the slot some breathing space but we run a risk of that person coming in, and appearing strong that much it will be town read under no pressure, and we will allow that slot to remain in the game, or we maintain the pressure and anyone coming in as to prove they are town under pressure.

Like I said before, Redflavour replaced out, when he was scum read by half the player list, the new player came in and became widely town read, then she replaced out just before the night phase began, the SK (Fitz at that time) nightkilled that slot, and it flipped scum. Now if there wasn't a SK, I was in LYLO if I remember correctly, I wouldn't have ever considered to lynch that slot, and I'm sure I would speak for anyone that could have been in that situation instead of me.

But the only difference is, Redflavour was scum read but he had hardly no votes on him so there was no real pressure on the replacement coming in, so that basically allowed her to come in and just play the game mentality, rather than come in and think I've got to survive but possibly slip up in the process.

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Post Post #503  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:58 am

In post 499, havingfitz wrote:
In post 496, Kopherald wrote:
In post 429, Creature wrote:VOTE: havingfitz

Would policy lynch someone who gets away five days without being poked.


Might be something or nothing, but posting in a PT would that avoid a poke?

- Kop

Wow... brass I could see asking this question but not Kop.

For someone so concerned with my v/la and whether I should have been prodded during it (WTF!?) you'd think you could answer my question to you above.

VOTE: Kopherald


I would answer your question, but that come from the Brass head as to where he got that from.

If I could surmise for his thought on that, I would think along the lines of it feels like 2 weeks since we've had a post from you.

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Post Post #504  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:23 pm

Hi, the two weeks thing was probably my notoriously bad math skills. I thought the VLA was ending two weeks after fitz first posted it.

Most likely my bad. I cannot reliably count.

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Post Post #505  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:03 pm

UNVOTE:
I'm willing to wait for replacement.

@Jimmy, Have you caught up yet? Any reads for us while we're waiting?

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Post Post #506  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:10 pm

In post 494, JaydragonKing wrote:
In post 493, Taly wrote:And my vote will stay on him, skillfully.


That is your artistic liberty, actually. We are all wrong atleast once in our lives.


I almost want to townread you because of how you little you seem to care about being wagoned.

But you're scum until you do something productive, and stop dismissing me.

In post 499, havingfitz wrote:
In post 496, Kopherald wrote:
In post 429, Creature wrote:VOTE: havingfitz

Would policy lynch someone who gets away five days without being poked.


Might be something or nothing, but posting in a PT would that avoid a poke?

- Kop

Wow... brass I could see asking this question but not Kop.

For someone so concerned with my v/la and whether I should have been prodded during it (WTF!?) you'd think you could answer my question to you above.

VOTE: Kopherald


Link me the post of your question? I didn't see one?

Other than that, I don't see the issue with Kop's question?

I wonder if Kopherald was expecting this reaction.

Also, what do you think about Jay?

In post 500, Aneninen wrote:Mobilepost.
I have only took a look at this page. I think Jay is scum.


Then do something about it.

In post 505, texcat wrote:UNVOTE:
I'm willing to wait for replacement.

@Jimmy, Have you caught up yet? Any reads for us while we're waiting?


Do you have any other people on your radar?

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Post Post #507  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:53 pm

Sorta bad to come in just to say my gut is starting to think Taly is scum.
can't post on thursdays

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Post Post #508  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:45 pm

In post 444, JaydragonKing wrote:Because she's an electric flying type and I'm an Ice type.

Okay, that's good enough for me on Day1.

In post 454, Creature wrote:Still I personally wouldn't let a player go straight 5 days without posting even if they're on some sort of long V/LA.

I don't like this.
This is not the town-Creature I know.
Town Creature would develop scumreads on players who are posting.

In post 458, Creature wrote:TGP's replace out is pretty much NAI, right?

If the Paradox slot flips scum, Creature must flip scum too.

In post 463, Sando wrote:Given his apology was "overgaming" himself, and part of his other posting is /in-ing to other games...yeah it rings incredibly false to me.

Which queue? This might be important.

In post 468, Taly wrote:Yet, you still scumread half the playerlist?

Sort of. I don't like it either.

In post 468, Taly wrote:Also, what gave you the idea that I care so much about your scumread on me? I called out a fallacy that I saw in your scumreads. You say you've asked questions and I'd assume you're trying to scumhunt; but you're placing suspicion on a good portion of the playerlist while saying that people don't need to understand your reasoning.

I meant that part for your particular question. Not for all my reads.
If you mean by "fallacy" my too many scumreads, I must tell you, I had too many scumreads ages before you were added to my list.

In post 476, Almost50 wrote:
In post 442, Aneninen wrote:Hey, Almost, why don't you vote for Doomfeathers?

I did, and it never took off. It was just you and me against the world (And neither of us is Scott Pilgrim I believe)

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In post 478, Creature wrote:
In post 473, profii wrote:Does it bother you if I
VOTE: TheGoldenParadox
Just to fill the void you left there and keep the pressure on the slot?

Keep pressure on an empty slot?

I'm parrotting this.
I don't think it makes much difference for anyone replacing a slot which is at L–2 to L–1.
(So, Creature might not be scum?)

In post 479, Almost50 wrote:
In post 442, Aneninen wrote:A question for those who're more advanced in meta-ing Almost50: is this style normal for town-Almost50? This is very important!!!!

yes it is (this is from the one and only person who is utterly advanced in meta'ing me. I'm even better than Mathdino in that department) :P

This is not enough, for obvious reason. So, the question is still there.

In post 490, Ausuka wrote:He's being completely useless on purpose and I don't like that.

I haven't been too useful either.
Shall I die on Day2 too or shall I wash the dishes instead?

In post 495, Lalendra wrote:OK all I'm saying is look at this recent game I played with A50 where he was SK and his play here, and something is up. He was super cautious and analytical in that game, not anything like what he's doing here. I don't know for a fact if that makes him town or scum here, but I'm pretty convinced it's scum based on what I've seen.

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=74342

I've checked it.
My problem is: in this game I can't see the town-Almost I know. In that game I can't see the town-Almost I know. In these two games I can see two entirely different Almosts.

However, I'm repeating my question for you, Lalendra. Tell me something in 3 sentences and a Gyarados, why I should leave you alone Today.

In post 497, doomfeathers wrote:@Mod could I be replaced out, please? I'm sorry to do it--I really, really don't want to--but it's become extremely apparent that I just don't have time for a large.

I hope it's a joke.

In post 499, havingfitz wrote:
In post 496, Kopherald wrote:
In post 429, Creature wrote:VOTE: havingfitz
Would policy lynch someone who gets away five days without being poked.

Might be something or nothing, but posting in a PT would that avoid a poke?

- Kop

Wow... brass I could see asking this question but not Kop.
For someone so concerned with my v/la and whether I should have been prodded during it (WTF!?) you'd think you could answer my question to you above.
VOTE: Kopherald

Explain this.

Kopherald, . I can see your concerns. What if we leave alone that slot for a while and keep on scumhunting in a normal way?

In post 505, texcat wrote:UNVOTE:
I'm willing to wait for replacement.
@Jimmy, Have you caught up yet? Any reads for us while we're waiting?

That's so town-Texcat-ish, on the other hand. Popping in out of nowhere and asking something off-topic (compared to the recent events).

In post 506, Taly wrote:But you're scum until you do something productive, and stop dismissing me.

As if everyone but Jay were useful and productive. Half of the playerlist is not productive.

In post 506, Taly wrote:
In post 500, Aneninen wrote:Mobilepost.
I have only took a look at this page. I think Jay is scum.

Then do something about it.

Actually I changed my mind during my catch-up. To your dismay, I'm not explaining, why.

In post 507, Creature wrote:Sorta bad to come in just to say my gut is starting to think Taly is scum.

Sometimes I'm thinking the same.

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Here's my problem. I really want to trust someone becuase I think I'm useless and I haven't been reading everything thoroughly. But, whomever I'm thinking about, there's a "but".
All I have are speculations. If [this player] is scum, [that player] must be scum too, or if [this player] is scum, [that player] must be town. But by doing this I'm not getting anywhere.
When I have a strong townread, there will be a chain reaction in my reads.
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Post Post #509  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:46 pm

Pfff. I've posted a wall again.
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Post Post #510  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:10 pm

In post 508, Aneninen wrote:[Retry] – – – – [Cancel]
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He replaced out.
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Post Post #511  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:12 pm

In post 508, Aneninen wrote:
In post 507, Creature wrote: wrote:Sorta bad to come in just to say my gut is starting to think Taly is scum.


Sometimes I'm thinking the same.


I associative read Taly scum, but I'm not seeing much isolated scum behaviour from Taly. I just feel his anti-wagons are...off.

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Post Post #512  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:14 pm

In post 510, Almost50 wrote:
In post 508, Aneninen wrote:[Retry] – – – – [Cancel]
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He replaced out.

That hasn't been mod-confirmed yet. As I posted, I hoped it had been a joke.
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Post Post #513  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:15 pm

In post 511, Sando wrote:
In post 508, Aneninen wrote:
In post 507, Creature wrote: wrote:Sorta bad to come in just to say my gut is starting to think Taly is scum.

Sometimes I'm thinking the same.

I associative read Taly scum, but I'm not seeing much isolated scum behaviour from Taly. I just feel his anti-wagons are...off.

See the end of my wall.
Also, whom do you associate Taly with?
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Post Post #514  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:18 pm

The idea that Creature of all people things we should read replacements as NAI, that we should stop pressuring a scummy looking replacement, and that havingfitz not posting while VLA... seems hypocritical at best.

Soz Anen, I didn't actually pay any attention to which queue, I'll see if I can find it, but it was just seeing an /in in his top 10 posts or so since posting here, so my reread of him might be thrown by other posts, I'll have a look though.

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Post Post #515  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:20 pm

In post 513, Aneninen wrote:Also, whom do you associate Taly with?


Yep, saw the end of your wall, I don't feel in the same place.

I associate Taly with A50 and Shad, I've previously outlined why, I'll go dig it up if needed. But basically, looked to derail A50 in favour of TGP, and gave Shad neutral to town points for doing literally (yes literally) the exact same thing he gave me scum points for, defending it with "noobishness".

I find A50 independently scummy of that, Shad too for that matter now.

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Post Post #516  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:08 pm

In post 514, Sando wrote:The idea that Creature of all people things we should read replacements as NAI, that we should stop pressuring a scummy looking replacement, and that havingfitz not posting while VLA... seems hypocritical at best.


Oooook, back from coffee and reread this, apparently I should have waited:

The idea that Creature of all people thinks we should read replacements as NAI, that we should stop pressuring a scummy looking replacement slot, and that havingfitz not posting while VLA is a sign of scummy... seems hypocritical at best.

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Post Post #517  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:15 pm

doomfeathers requested replacement.
Anticipating possible followup questions: Players have the option of cancelling their replacement request up to the point the new player gets a PM.

Also picking up a couple previous questions:
Posts must be in the game thread to reset prod timers, and have to be more than a prod dodge.
For the daytalk question I wasn't planning to say one way or the other.

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Post Post #518  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:24 pm

Official Vote Count 1.7

Almost50 (4) - doomfeathers, Sando, TheGoldenParadox, Lalendra
TheGoldenParadox (3) - Kopherald, Almost50, profii
doomfeathers (1) - Aneninen
JaydragonKing (1) - Taly
Kopherald (1) - havingfitz

Not Voting (6) - JimmyUrineMoneyShot, Shadpearl, Creature, JaydragonKing, Ausuka, texcat

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Notes: havingfitz is V/LA until March 13. TheGoldenParadox and doomfeathers are being replaced.


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Post Post #519  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:06 pm

Alright then. I'm going to make an awfully bad piece of play here, because most of you are no more than baboon typists:

I'm one of the 3 Elemental Doctors. That's right (Good luck to the Backup Doctor. You have the rest of the day, then a night and a day to form your own TRs and decide on whom to protect).

Since there are only 3 Mafia and 1 Sk = 4 scum in total, then at least 3 morons are on my wagon when I was put to L-2 (and those morons have no business playing mafia anymore than they should be assigned a space shuttle maintenance duties.)

I know, I know... I'm bad and scummy and all.. you're all geniuses and I'm the one to blame, but here's a reminder to those who know me and those who just got introduced to me alike: And one last note: DO NOT BLOODY META ME... EVER! I DO NOT HAVE A BLOODY META THAT I ADHERE TO.

I will NOT provide a full read list, so do not expect one and don't ask for one. In a setup like this, providing a full read list is providing scum with a road plan on whom to kill. I still think doom is scum though, and TGP is also likely Scum, but feel free to do as you wish. I myself won't be voting outside if these two today though.

There is a reason I do not have enough SRs here, and that is I've been TOWN HUNTING. As a protective it is important for me to recognize TOWNIES and evaluate the chances of them being targeted for the NK so as to try and protect them. The Scum hunting I did mainly lead me to doom as the proper lynch and since we can't lynch more than one person per day I didn't need to look any further until I was made to.

Disclaimer: The outrage outlined above is directed at those who actually voted/FoS'd me and is limited to them.

Thank you and GOOD LUCK (you will need it).
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Post Post #520  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:44 pm

Sorta stressed havingfitz will go 7 days without posting content.
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Post Post #521  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:47 pm

Damn, Aneninen's gonna irritate me.
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Post Post #522  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:48 pm

VOTE: Sando

New wagon choo choo
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Post Post #523  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:48 pm

Also, yes, I at some point had TGP's replace out as town until I found out he was signing up to new games.
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Post Post #524  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:51 pm

Also irritates me how Jimmy's meta is post the least possible.
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