Nah RC deserved death. Bad taste you implied the only reason was to lynch the loud one.In post 874, Creature wrote:Bad taste because you feel bad about it?
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Nah I'm not that stupidIn post 875, Garmr wrote:you implied the only reason was to lynch the loud one.Sigh- Irrelephant11
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I mean I never game solve D1 butIn post 856, Shoshin wrote:
I haven't read anything, so no.In post 854, Irrelephant11 wrote:shoshin do you have game solve yet or
You?
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In post 838, BrightEyedFish wrote:
It's straight up opportunistic...In post 837, BuJaber wrote:
I never understood this mentality..In post 835, BrightEyedFish wrote:VOTE: FA_Q2
For voting an empty slot. Give the new person a chance, I say.
If someone thinks a slot is scummy, and they place a regular vote not a lynch or something close to a lynch like L-1, then why is it scummy? The rep out doesn't clear the slate.
It's not though. Not when this mentality is widespread on the site. People will be hesitant to lynch the replacement. You have to work harder to push it through.- BuJaber
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I don't buy that.In post 878, BuJaber wrote:In post 838, BrightEyedFish wrote:
It's straight up opportunistic...In post 837, BuJaber wrote:
I never understood this mentality..In post 835, BrightEyedFish wrote:VOTE: FA_Q2
For voting an empty slot. Give the new person a chance, I say.
If someone thinks a slot is scummy, and they place a regular vote not a lynch or something close to a lynch like L-1, then why is it scummy? The rep out doesn't clear the slate.
It's not though. Not when this mentality is widespread on the site. People will be hesitant to lynch the replacement. You have to work harder to push it through.- Irrelephant11
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Correct. Shoshin either will or won't vouch for me being town at some point though, which will give you a good idea of my alignment probably?In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.
I'll be honest I stopped reading Garmr posts at some point when spectating because they were so unpleasant. I mostly haven't read them since replacing in for the same reason. How important is it that I get a firm Garmr read?
I remember RC saying Garmr is being more toxic than he normally would be as town so maybe that's a thing? I also remember Io saying "no one is townreading you because you so unpleasant they don't want to townread you" which sounded sort of buddy-y. Actually that's more of a scumread of Io thing than anything AI for Garmr I guess.
Oh and then there's the "oh of course you were offended" thing that is a slight reason to townread Garmr I guess.
Overall I come away with a tiny townlean without reading his posts much at all.
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You were talking about nothing useful. Why do you even care who you would choose between the duelers? That situation is over. I notice how you did not bother to comment on an actual post/player/action or anything that might move the game forward.In post 866, Creature wrote:
No, I was talking in general, not sure who I would choose between the duelers.In post 864, Garmr wrote:
But if you are talking about rc and pp in a duel then I don't like your response straight off the bat. Your in Nic slot to so nothing really changed my read on it.In post 858, Creature wrote:Did we really just lynch the louder player?
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No, I haven't even started catching up.In post 879, BuJaber wrote:Creature are you caught up and if so what are your reads?Sigh- Creature
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Good for you. Does not make your statement any less false.In post 881, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I don't buy that.In post 878, BuJaber wrote:In post 838, BrightEyedFish wrote:
It's straight up opportunistic...In post 837, BuJaber wrote:
I never understood this mentality..In post 835, BrightEyedFish wrote:VOTE: FA_Q2
For voting an empty slot. Give the new person a chance, I say.
If someone thinks a slot is scummy, and they place a regular vote not a lynch or something close to a lynch like L-1, then why is it scummy? The rep out doesn't clear the slate.
It's not though. Not when this mentality is widespread on the site. People will be hesitant to lynch the replacement. You have to work harder to push it through.
Anyway, I wanted NC to respond to what I said before he left. There was only one way to do that. I did not get a response unfortunately. Creature has done nothing to change my stance on that slot and he has had the opportunity.- Light Ethos
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What other reasons do you think it was for? Reading your post left me with the impression Garmr posted.In post 876, Creature wrote:
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I implied we lynched the louder player, not that we lynched the louder player for being the loudest.In post 887, Light Ethos wrote:
What other reasons do you think it was for? Reading your post left me with the impression Garmr posted.In post 876, Creature wrote:
Nah I'm not that stupidIn post 875, Garmr wrote:you implied the only reason was to lynch the loud one.Sigh- Garmr
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You could pretty much skip my rc argument and my post return to normal. Rc is dumb and doesn't know how to read me. Also that was nic saying no one is town reading me because i'm unpleasant which is a lie and then he ran off on a rant on how shit rc was. IO scum read me for the earlier situation where I tried to set up a scenario I thought was ideal for town. I also used that scenario to read peoples slots.In post 882, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Correct. Shoshin either will or won't vouch for me being town at some point though, which will give you a good idea of my alignment probably?In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.
I'll be honest I stopped reading Garmr posts at some point when spectating because they were so unpleasant. I mostly haven't read them since replacing in for the same reason. How important is it that I get a firm Garmr read?
I remember RC saying Garmr is being more toxic than he normally would be as town so maybe that's a thing? I also remember Io saying "no one is townreading you because you so unpleasant they don't want to townread you" which sounded sort of buddy-y. Actually that's more of a scumread of Io thing than anything AI for Garmr I guess.
Oh and then there's the "oh of course you were offended" thing that is a slight reason to townread Garmr I guess.
Overall I come away with a tiny townlean without reading his posts much at all.
So, same question. Is my answer important enough that I like,haveto dive in to his posts?
I couldn't say at the time because the game was ongoing. But now it's over
Rc is dumb and doesn't know a town garmr from a scum garmr. As soon as I saw the words I know a town garmr and I had a bad day It was a recipe for disaster.In post 434, RadiantCowbells wrote:mostly due to phrasing stuff that I won't be able to articulate in a way that's going to do anyone any favours
but there's a level of restraint that makes it feel fake and planned out, really don't think the word thumb is used bytown garmrin this context.
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Ok but why is that important? Your tone implied that was a bad thing thing why?In post 888, Creature wrote:
I implied we lynched the louder player, not that we lynched the louder player for being the loudest.In post 887, Light Ethos wrote:
What other reasons do you think it was for? Reading your post left me with the impression Garmr posted.In post 876, Creature wrote:
Nah I'm not that stupidIn post 875, Garmr wrote:you implied the only reason was to lynch the loud one.- Garmr
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I think it's null but when compared to eji slot I'm not really hard scum reading him as much. Still on my to sort list but a lower priority.In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.- Garmr
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ele trusting shoshin. Is nullIn post 891, Garmr wrote:In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.I think it's nullbut when compared to eji slot I'm not really hard scum reading him as much. Still on my to sort list but a lower priority.- BuJaber
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Well yes .. sorting you is a big deal. So is making sure my read on garmr continues to make sense.In post 882, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Correct. Shoshin either will or won't vouch for me being town at some point though, which will give you a good idea of my alignment probably?In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.
I'll be honest I stopped reading Garmr posts at some point when spectating because they were so unpleasant. I mostly haven't read them since replacing in for the same reason. How important is it that I get a firm Garmr read?
I remember RC saying Garmr is being more toxic than he normally would be as town so maybe that's a thing? I also remember Io saying "no one is townreading you because you so unpleasant they don't want to townread you" which sounded sort of buddy-y. Actually that's more of a scumread of Io thing than anything AI for Garmr I guess.
Oh and then there's the "oh of course you were offended" thing that is a slight reason to townread Garmr I guess.
Overall I come away with a tiny townlean without reading his posts much at all.
So, same question. Is my answer important enough that I like,haveto dive in to his posts?
Ejji was a little scummy and garmr SR'd him strongly. Figured this is a good way to check your slot and see how garmr sees his replacement.- BuJaber
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I think it points to to town!shoshin because if ele repped into a town slot we can trust the read, and if he repped into a scum slot I think he would still say that to make him sound believable and/or to pocket shoshin.In post 892, Garmr wrote:
ele trusting shoshin. Is nullIn post 891, Garmr wrote:In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.I think it's nullbut when compared to eji slot I'm not really hard scum reading him as much. Still on my to sort list but a lower priority.
That leaves SvS but that would be rather ballsy of ele and I'm leaning town for shoshin anyway based on this weak push on her and her response to it.- Garmr
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I'm not liking this logic. If ele posts trust of shoshin regardless of ele's alignment, I contend that ele would post trust of shoshin regardless of shoshin's alignment too. Your post also ignores the possibility of town!ele misreading scum!shoshin. Is there a particular reason you reject that possibility?In post 894, BuJaber wrote:
I think it points to to town!shoshin because if ele repped into a town slot we can trust the read, and if he repped into a scum slot I think he would still say that to make him sound believable and/or to pocket shoshin.In post 892, Garmr wrote:
ele trusting shoshin. Is nullIn post 891, Garmr wrote:In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.I think it's nullbut when compared to eji slot I'm not really hard scum reading him as much. Still on my to sort list but a lower priority.
That leaves SvS but that would be rather ballsy of ele and I'm leaning town for shoshin anyway based on this weak push on her and her response to it.- BrightEyedFish
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Calculated probability.In post 896, Light Ethos wrote:
I'm not liking this logic. If ele posts trust of shoshin regardless of ele's alignment, I contend that ele would post trust of shoshin regardless of shoshin's alignment too. Your post also ignores the possibility of town!ele misreading scum!shoshin. Is there a particular reason you reject that possibility?In post 894, BuJaber wrote:
I think it points to to town!shoshin because if ele repped into a town slot we can trust the read, and if he repped into a scum slot I think he would still say that to make him sound believable and/or to pocket shoshin.In post 892, Garmr wrote:
ele trusting shoshin. Is nullIn post 891, Garmr wrote:In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Garmr how do you read ele and ele how do you read garmr?
I think ele trusting shoshin and joining the game with that mentality is more indicative of town!sho than it is AI for ele.I think it's nullbut when compared to eji slot I'm not really hard scum reading him as much. Still on my to sort list but a lower priority.
That leaves SvS but that would be rather ballsy of ele and I'm leaning town for shoshin anyway based on this weak push on her and her response to it.
Higher chance of scum!ele posting that if shoshin is town than not posting it.
Higher chance of town!ele correctly reading a player he knows very well than not.
Also for ele to be town and shoshin to be scum it would mean all 3 of these have to be true: ele is wrong on his read, I am wrong on my read, shoshin is sheeping me as scum. Which I don't think is likely either. I did very well in my only previous game against scum!shoshin. I think she would try to discredit my reads as scum to protect her teammates. I could maybe see her pocketing me if this setup didn't have the white flag mechanic but since it does, me getting pocketed by shoshin would not be enough. - BuJaber
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