Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Infinity 324]

Imo you should do it now in case there's a claim so we have enough time to sort out the aftermath.

[PlusJOYED]

ok
VOTE: Noraa E1

[MURDERCAT]

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-10-23 13:00:00)

We do have some time still. Reading Noraa.

[MURDERCAT]

Found a fake townslip from scum Noraa

[Noraa]

I recently went and meta dived Plus some more and I've decided that I want to drop the SR on him for a bit.

hmmm
i consider this mostly nai but probably townie
i hope you aren't scum lol

untunneling is generally town indicative.

Imo you should do it now in case there's a claim so we have enough time to sort out the aftermath.

Highly dislike how Infinity keeps pushing me. Plus decided to be reasonable and seeing that a townie was untunneling to try to solve, he decided to do the same but you say this which makes him come back thinking the deadline is soon.

[Noraa]

I never ever die day 1 as scum bc I'm always highly townread in my scum games.... In all my finished, I died day 3 or didn't die at all.
Honestly speaking, if I'm highly SRed day 1, I'm definitely town. If I'm not, it depends.
Since y'all r taking so much meta stuff into account, I figured this was necessary

[MURDERCAT]

I only have two leans rn and they are weak asf

Might be conf biased, but this sort of fence sitting seems AI for scum Noraa

[MURDERCAT]

No everyone here is definitely right. Plus seems much more well composed this game. And I'm sure its not just me that's noticed this. I think this is either bc he is scum and knows the whole setup so he is pretty relaxed or its just that his game is getting better. Plus is normally somewhat like me .... basically a huge tsunami of confusion and LHF vibes. But this game I see huge improvement and while I want to say its most likely bc he is scum, I also think its very possible that its just his game getting better.

This also sticks out, an effort post that ends with a shrug.

[Infinity 324]

I only have two leans rn and they are weak asf

Might be conf biased, but this sort of fence sitting seems AI for scum Noraa

Tbf I think she had trouble finding reads in another town game (arthropods?)

[Noraa]

this is frustrating. ok whatever just lim me day 1. when I flip green, remember I said Infinity and BM are sus.
Infinity's big push on me. take a hot look at it.
BM's constant "Taylor is scum but imma vote Noraa for ??? reasons" is a good place to look as well.
I give up trying to convince y'all. there's no point and I'm tired of trying. I literally made so many wall cases and no one's listening. My green flip will make you listen or else I'll yell at everyone post game.

[brassherald]

Votecount 1.06

Noraa (6):

Tayl0r Swift, Cobra Kai, Battle Mage, xofelf, Infinity 324, plusJOYED

egotisi (4):

Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, Isis, Exorcists

Infinity 324 (1):

Noraa

MURDERCAT (1):

egotisi

Not Voting (1):

MURDERCAT

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-10-23 13:00:00)
Gamma Emerald replaces Jewel Barons... Kind of.

[Noraa]

I only have two leans rn and they are weak asf

Might be conf biased, but this sort of fence sitting seems AI for scum Noraa

Tbf I think she had trouble finding reads in another town game (arthropods?)

now flipping around and saying this. Infinity is someone I request town look into tomorrow.

[MURDERCAT]

This is actually such a bad answer to murder's question.

@infinity I think your criticism of ego also applies to Noraa. There's a lot of stuff like this where Noraa calls things out or interacts about something but it doesn't actually go anywhere. I think town Noraa is much more willing to share her alignment opinions about anything and everything. Like from town Noraa I would expect a comment that involves something about Cobra's alignment here if she is going to call it out. (Ok not every post will have something like that but I feel like there is a higher number of posts like this one that what I would expect from town Noraa.)

[MURDERCAT]

I do not like the Taylor wagon

This is directly opposed to a previous read that Noraa gave where she called Tayl0r scum

[Infinity 324]

@mod I think xofelf is voting nora as of 1152

[brassherald]

@mod I think xofelf is voting nora as of 1152

Yes, I missed that one. Vote tags are easier to see but bold is still valid. MB.

[MURDERCAT]

Ok I mean I definitely saw evidence of Noraa scum. I'm going to wait a few hours, come back, and look for evidence that Noraa is town. That one super high effort post about infinity and the "untunnel" of plus still feel very off to me as well.

[Cobra Kai]

viewtopic.php?p=12236870#p12236870

Out of the mouths of babes.

[MURDERCAT]

viewtopic.php?p=12236870#p12236870

Out of the mouths of babes.

Thanks I will read this game too

[Infinity 324]

Spoiler: town nora

I read thru most of 72's posts and this one doesn't have good reasoning if you ask me. Plus prolly did read thru everything but that one post stood out to him bc I'm guessing based on past experience, he knows that noobs r easy to pocket and saw Echo's post as pocketing. It seems to me like fair reasoning even tho Echo's intent wasn't to pocket but to someone that just replaced in, I'm sure it does look pretty sus.

Your conclusion was that plus and shelly were scum. Personally I think that what you have on plus rn is nowhere near enough evidence to be saying he is scum. He hasn't done anything that strikes me as sus so far. As for shelly, I have to agree that her tone was a bit off but idk if it's just me but I feel like I wouldn't have the best responses to anything if I reached E-2 that fast. Ik it's just Echo joking around ig but I'm sure seeing Vote:shelly a bunch of times from him wasn't exactly pleasant on the receiving end. And after people all started voting her, even the tiniest bit of "suspiciousness" in her posts got brought up. Other people were sus too but people seemed to only focus on her bc she was the one closest to getting eliminated. You said so urself that it should still be RVS so why are people honing in on one person?

lurker confirmed. it's happened twice. Both times he was prodded and both times he jumped on the wagon to eliminate shelly(except his first vote was invalid). Jumping on the wagon isn't that sus tbh cuz I do understand the arguments on why shelly is sus but each time he's prodded, he immediately posts something which confirms he's lurking and that's pretty sus.

@PlusJOYED
"my gut tells me that maybe one of them is scum but no way both of them r"
"maybe one of them is scum"
"MAYBE"
if that wasn't clear enough, it means that I think anything is possible except both of u being scum. I would also think that if the two mafia were smart, they wouldn't ever talk to each other. That way no one would ever think they r related but u talked to shelly a lot soooo that def makes me think u two aren't the mafia.

Yeah that can be a noob scumtell. One thing I was taught is that mafia partners can have a problem of not wanting to say if their buddy is scum or town. Though they still have to talk to each other to a lesser degree

Ok now that I think about it, it would prolly be a lil sus if two people had absolutely zero interaction with each other so ig a lil is normal. But seriously like y'all talked a TON. That doesn't strike me as something the mafia would have the guts to do under any circumstance. Also lol this is gonna sound really stupid but uh when u said "yeah that can be a noob scumtell" is that supposed to mean noobs determine who is scum based on reasons like this or you read me as a scum? Idk I get what scumread means which is saying I think ur a scum but idk what scumtell is.

shell seems t be srsly solving
plus isnt

Sirius I want to hear your take on this game. you haven't been posting much so I find it unfair that I can't bring myself to scumread u which results in me only being able to scumread other people that have been talking more when u could be scum choosing to watch town rip itself apart.

The difference is night and day imo

[egotisi]

ah shit 2 days left, i gotta actually do things
i'll be around for a bit, someone said they want to interact with me i think

on a quick skim, spicy hot take: currently leading wagons are t/t (read: noraa is town)

-tisi

pedit: lol this will be interesting

[egotisi]

anyway this caught my eye:

so you have scum!noraa right. and she sees that (1) a lot of people are scumreading her, meaning there's a decent chance she flips today, and (2) that people are jumping on the hot new lol-lurker egotisi wagon. does she:

a) start at least throwing shade at egotisi, bullshit a scumread there, so that she can jump on her counterwagon at some point without looking horrible
b) shoots herself in the foot??? by making these posts???

why the datisi slot?
I've had no problem with that slot so far and I think most of what that slot says is reasonable

I personally find all three hydras pretty towny so idk what to think there but those are all town leans that are subject to change.

b.1) further shoots herself in the foot by reaffirming the infinity vote (1174) that is probably not going anywhere?? while our wagon is rapidly growing???

-tisi

[Infinity 324]

I think she does shit like that as scum for wine purposes

[egotisi]

In these early quote walls,

there are a lot of questions which aren't always followed up on. If they are, they don't lead to a real read.

They also often point out things that other people already brought up (e.g. the PR spec thing and murder's unvote potentially being scummy). The scumread on jewel,

besides being very hedgy

, feels like a way to say "look I have my own opinions" while voting someone who isn't the most active and won't be defended by many people.

(1) yeah. that's how i play. not every question has a direct purpose. some are just to see if the answer Inspires me. if it doesn't, then tough luck.
(2) not sure what you mean by hedgy here? like i think i've been scumleaning/reading jewel barons pretty consistently?

-tisi

[MURDERCAT]

so you have scum!noraa right. and she sees that (1) a lot of people are scumreading her, meaning there's a decent chance she flips today, and (2) that people are jumping on the hot new lol-lurker egotisi wagon. does she:

a) start at least throwing shade at egotisi, bullshit a scumread there, so that she can jump on her counterwagon at some point without looking horrible
b) shoots herself in the foot??? by making these posts???

I do think this is a good point and I definitely think that ego and Noraa as scum partners start bussing in at least one direction.