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Post Post #200  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm

I don't think you'd bus here, because bambi is pretty obvtown, fwiw.
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Post Post #201  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:32 pm

I never said we have a cult, I need a break anyway this is getting ridiculous but I townread it being ridiculous because Vex is ridiculous as Town so honestly for me the Vanilla scum is between Bambi and Llama. Vex is more likely Town for suddenly defending Bingle after scumreading Bingle over a genuine error that I can't believe isn't either an accident or a genuine slip made by someone trying to lie and coming up with the wrong role name... Yeah, I think I have no choice to Townread this kind of flipflop by Vex, since it fits with their Town meta last game, as does the tunneling nature of the original interaction.

I will take a break for around two hours at least.
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Post Post #202  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:32 pm

In post 199, Vex Vience wrote:re-read what i said bingle.


The part where we agreed this mason tangent is bizarre or the impasse where you think there's valuable pregame discussion for the masons and I explicitly don't?
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Post Post #203  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm

In post 196, Vex Vience wrote:
In post 181, RationalMadman wrote:Because of that brainfart/slip I am absolutely certain that Vex vs Bingle+Ker isn't a bus relationship, it's authentic.


do you think i would bus a partner in this setup?

Of course, it's perfect towncred to hypercarry. Would you? Of course but definitely? Depends on many factors.
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Post Post #204  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm

In post 186, RationalMadman wrote:they can't recruit


i'm literally known for cult setups. cult's special ability is the fact the cult leader can *recruit* people to their faction.
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Post Post #205  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm

In post 202, Bingle wrote:
In post 199, Vex Vience wrote:re-read what i said bingle.


The part where we agreed this mason tangent is bizarre or the impasse where you think there's valuable pregame discussion for the masons and I explicitly don't?


you figured out what i said i think. i got from your post that you were thinking i asked if you thought llama would bus their partner, not me
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Post Post #206  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:35 pm

In post 203, RationalMadman wrote:
In post 196, Vex Vience wrote:
In post 181, RationalMadman wrote:Because of that brainfart/slip I am absolutely certain that Vex vs Bingle+Ker isn't a bus relationship, it's authentic.


do you think i would bus a partner in this setup?

Of course, it's perfect towncred to hypercarry. Would you? Of course but definitely? Depends on many factors.


ok but, you saw last game i'm able to clear myself as town rather effectively. wouldn't it stand to reason that i'm able to do that as well as scum?
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Post Post #207  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm

In post 201, RationalMadman wrote:I never said we have a cult, I need a break anyway this is getting ridiculous but I townread it being ridiculous because Vex is ridiculous as Town so honestly for me the Vanilla scum is between Bambi and Llama. Vex is more likely Town for suddenly defending Bingle after scumreading Bingle over a genuine error that I can't believe isn't either an accident or a genuine slip made by someone trying to lie and coming up with the wrong role name... Yeah, I think I have no choice to Townread this kind of flipflop by Vex, since it fits with their Town meta last game, as does the tunneling nature of the original interaction.

I will take a break for around two hours at least.


:thorface:

I'm either a scum lover or a town lover or an impressively massive idiot who managed to convince my scumteam to play a truly insanely ballsy gambit with no upside. How would my somehow forgetting my own role name be scum indicative?
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Post Post #208  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm

In post 205, Vex Vience wrote:you figured out what i said i think. i got from your post that you were thinking i asked if you thought llama would bus their partner, not me


No, I was saying that given the clear advantage that bussing had in the previous run and the fact that you're not generally a dumbass, you would definitely be willing to bus in this setup.
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Post Post #209  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm

Do you agree with me that Bambi is v town rn, VV?
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Post Post #210  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:48 pm

In post 198, Bingle wrote:
In post 196, Vex Vience wrote:do you think i would bus a partner in this setup?


Yes. There's a decent chance it would have won Llama the game last game, despite the necessity of the reroll.


I think I would've kept Kerset safe come what may.

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Post Post #211  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 5:56 pm

Nah, definitely would have had an R+J ending, although there was a decent chance you could get rid of RM and I first.

I don't think you would've been well served doing so, as I was prepared to hard defend LF.
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Post Post #212  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 6:05 pm

@Ana, what do you make of the VV/me back and forth?
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Post Post #213  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 6:49 pm

Currently reading and the two things that stick out are I'm townread by BingleBangle and he and Vex argued about something. Oh and Ration called out my meme vote but that's expected.

The PT talk felt filler mainly cuz of the fact no decent player as evil doesn't make a fake PT discussion this time. Honestly hearing About ana complaining about Ration was the main believable one and that's NAI. Funny but NAI.

Vex I wanted to blindly trust you over Llama to make it easier on me but now my blind townread of my former lover is now null and void. I might just be missing something at work but it felt like needless banter.

Also who yelled at Bing for literally just using Mason as exaggeration? It was obvious what he meant.

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Post Post #214  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:04 pm

In post 210, Anastasia wrote:
In post 198, Bingle wrote:
In post 196, Vex Vience wrote:do you think i would bus a partner in this setup?


Yes. There's a decent chance it would have won Llama the game last game, despite the necessity of the reroll.


I think I would've kept Kerset safe come what may.


Nah fam I had the three of you absolutely NAILED.
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Post Post #215  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:04 pm

Also the lovers are effectively masons, so why did I read a full page arguing this???
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Post Post #216  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:09 pm

Kerset, honest answer time please. Why did you think you could push my miselim out of the whole playerlist last game?
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Post Post #217  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:10 pm

In post 214, T-Bone wrote:Nah fam I had the three of you absolutely NAILED.


I would escape with my lover to protect him.

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Post Post #218  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:10 pm

In post 216, T-Bone wrote:Kerset, honest answer time please. Why did you think you could push my miselim out of the whole playerlist last game?


I would've killed everyone in the player list last game to keep kerset alive, including LlamaDude

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Post Post #219  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:12 pm

I believe you.
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Post Post #220  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:13 pm

In post 212, Bingle wrote:@Ana, what do you make of the VV/me back and forth?


I read players by motivation, tone, and substance.

I don't understand your motivation to argue with him on this point.

Something I see often is scum trying to argue to be right instead of argue about alignment.

Because they don't have to fake being right, it's something they really believe inside.

So I tend to scum-read people who argue about things that are pointless.

The way you did it with VV, I'm not sure what either of you are trying to accomplish if you're town in that argument.

So it's possible that this is some kind of scum-theatre where you argue with him about something meaningless but with enough intensity that later we think you can't be aligned when one of you and him flips.

I'll see at the end if this intuition is right or not.

I will avoid thinking you could be scum for now because it would be painful for me to think my Kerset could be scum.

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Post Post #221  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 8:14 pm

I'm sorry VV, I messed up your pronoun. I will try my best to be accurate in the future.

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Post Post #222  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 9:02 pm

In post 216, T-Bone wrote:Kerset, honest answer time please. Why did you think you could push my miselim out of the whole playerlist last game?

i dont think that first push = miselim target
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Post Post #223  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 9:12 pm

In post 216, T-Bone wrote:Kerset, honest answer time please. Why did you think you could push my miselim out of the whole playerlist last game?


:/
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Post Post #224  (ISO)  » Thu May 13, 2021 9:14 pm

In post 220, Anastasia wrote:The way you did it with VV, I'm not sure what either of you are trying to accomplish if you're town in that argument.
So it's possible that this is some kind of scum-theatre where you argue with him about something meaningless but with enough intensity that later we think you can't be aligned when one of you and him flips.

Its natural that if VV insist on accusing Bingle then he is going to fight back. VV keep pursuing, so bingle keep responding.
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