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you asked me loaded questions. i refuse to answer "why are you misrepresenting my points" when i didn't actually do thatIn post 418, Marky Mark wrote:
Yet again you try to trivialise my points against you by calling it dogshit rather than arguing against it logically. You have 100% not addressed the questions I pointed your way (I guess your insinuation that flea is cult is a partial answer to the one about your reads, but certainly not a comprehensive one) so why act like you were happy to work with me and answer my questions if you're just going to try and trivialise them and bat them away?osuka wrote: yeah im sorry about my activity, i have been extremely busy with work. just yesterday, i was working until 3 am my time
that said, ive already addressed everything else youve mentioned here and i won't be doing it again because it's mostly dogshit and i can't be bothered to keep repeating myself
if you want to ask some good faith questions and start from the start, i can do thatcheck out osuka's votecounter + modtools, and get to know an idiot (me!)
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i'm not sure how i feel about you in particular at first. you strike me as towny but there's something about it that's offputting and i can't really put my finger on it. i do believe everything you've done so far is within your scum rangeIn post 419, Marky Mark wrote:Like if you think Flea is scum then why aren't you voting them, and what other reads do you have on the rest of the plist?
umlaut kind of screams town atm
enchant has absolutely braindead takes but i'm not entirely sure that's necessarily ai. willing to exec this slot
t3 sort of doesn't do shit but that's signature t3 and as far as i can tell, it's nai. still willing to exec this slot because he's not gonna do shit all game
i dont have excellent reads because the game stalled and ive been extremely busy so i'm very sorry about my own activity (even if i cant really do anything about everyone else's). i'll be here to talk to you again when you come backcheck out osuka's votecounter + modtools, and get to know an idiot (me!)
"I would also like to reiterate my claim that Osuka is sort of obviously town" - rc about scumsuka
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WHERE are my "weird defences" of major minor? you have yet to point any of them out - i just showed that you were pulling that straight out of your assIn post 422, Flea The Magician wrote:Two people think I'm scum but won't vote me, both are slots that are unfamiliar with me and it shows xD
Osuka, why react to my calling out of your weird defences of Major Minor but not theirs? Care to actually contribute to the game?check out osuka's votecounter + modtools, and get to know an idiot (me!)
"I would also like to reiterate my claim that Osuka is sort of obviously town" - rc about scumsuka
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Enchant is conftown y'know?In post 477, osuka wrote:enchant has absolutely braindead takes but i'm not entirely sure that's necessarily ai. willing to exec this slotI prefer they, thanks :)- Enchant
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you all seem to be under the impression that i defended your slot. that was never my intention and in all honesty, i don't have a good read on youIn post 452, Major Minor wrote:
They're not attempts, they're correct reads on your ego.In post 443, Flea The Magician wrote:Loving the continued attempts on my ego.
What is you read on Osuka, exactly?
I read potential scum AND town motivation behind Osuka's full throated defense of me earlier in the day -- and his recent "What I didn't defend MajMin, where'd I do that" feels scummy. I read that situation as a potential one where he saw an opportunity to white knight me at the start of the day for +town points later, but didn't realize I'd be a sinking ship, and is now trying to distance himself before he gets dragged down with me. That would indicate scum motivation.
my point was to call out a push that someone found in a fucking dumpster and thought it would be nice to post. i didn't do it because i think you're town, i did it because the push is garbage and everyone was losing brain cells because of itcheck out osuka's votecounter + modtools, and get to know an idiot (me!)
"I would also like to reiterate my claim that Osuka is sort of obviously town" - rc about scumsuka
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for the record, major is not my favorite exec today but i will compromise on it if necessarycheck out osuka's votecounter + modtools, and get to know an idiot (me!)
"I would also like to reiterate my claim that Osuka is sort of obviously town" - rc about scumsuka
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oh my gods Major answer the flipping question, not around the question!In post 465, Major Minor wrote:
I would vote for them over myself but it is certainly not my preferred wagon for the day.In post 463, Flea The Magician wrote:
I bet you're a blast at social events.In post 452, Major Minor wrote:
They're not attempts, they're correct reads on your ego.In post 443, Flea The Magician wrote:Loving the continued attempts on my ego.
What is you read on Osuka, exactly?
I read potential scum AND town motivation behind Osuka's full throated defense of me earlier in the day -- and his recent "What I didn't defend MajMin, where'd I do that" feels scummy. I read that situation as a potential one where he saw an opportunity to white knight me at the start of the day for +town points later, but didn't realize I'd be a sinking ship, and is now trying to distance himself before he gets dragged down with me. That would indicate scum motivation.
So you've justified both town and scum points for Osuka, but what is your exact read on them currently?
For that matter, what are peoples thoughts on Osuka rn?
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Yet you're still challenging me and not Major Minor.In post 478, osuka wrote:
WHERE are my "weird defences" of major minor? you have yet to point any of them out - i just showed that you were pulling that straight out of your assIn post 422, Flea The Magician wrote:Two people think I'm scum but won't vote me, both are slots that are unfamiliar with me and it shows xD
Osuka, why react to my calling out of your weird defences of Major Minor but not theirs? Care to actually contribute to the game?
Whom I might add you've given an identical read on.
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A couple of general observations before I move onto Osuka:
(My underlines) - Umlaut generally feels towny but this feels lazy and like he isn't interested in trying to accurately sort the slotIn post 470, Umlaut wrote:Actually I'm going to go ahead and completely change my mind about Dwlee, they're likely town based solely on the strength of 405-406 in general (or else Dwlee is excellent at faking town motivation) and their indignance at my voting them seems genuine.
I got some town vibes from osuka earlier in the game (and this is from someone who just picked him out as scum in another game) but I don't really remember why anymore
Let's just stick to plan A.
VOTE: Major Minor
Raya posts are pinging me as increasingly narrative/IIOA, eg 460/462. I'd be ok going there as a backup elim option- Marky Mark
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You portraying my push on you as being OMGUS is 100% a misrep of the argument I was making about why your 152 is scummy, so you've got some nerve trying to shade me over bad faith here when you've spent the game trying to discredit me.In post 476, osuka wrote:you asked me loaded questions. i refuse to answer "why are you misrepresenting my points" when i didn't actually do that
if you want to ask some good faith questions and start from the start, i can do that
Furthermore, the other question I originally asked was about what your reads were, which you then go on to explain (in response to a later, similar, question from me), so this doesn't even make sense- Marky Mark
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In fairness, trying to push near-conf town PR (Enchant) is wading into TSTBS territory so have some townpoints for that. The stuff on umlaut/t3 is reasonably surface level but meh NAI.In post 477, osuka wrote:
i'm not sure how i feel about you in particular at first. you strike me as towny but there's something about it that's offputting and i can't really put my finger on it. i do believe everything you've done so far is within your scum rangeIn post 419, Marky Mark wrote:Like if you think Flea is scum then why aren't you voting them, and what other reads do you have on the rest of the plist?
umlaut kind of screams town atm
enchant has absolutely braindead takes but i'm not entirely sure that's necessarily ai. willing to exec this slot
t3 sort of doesn't do shit but that's signature t3 and as far as i can tell, it's nai. still willing to exec this slot because he's not gonna do shit all game
i dont have excellent reads because the game stalled and ive been extremely busy so i'm very sorry about my own activity (even if i cant really do anything about everyone else's). i'll be here to talk to you again when you come back- Marky Mark
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A VC would be really useful rn.
My overall position is pretty similar to where I was at last night - I don't know how Osuka can make posts like 476 with a straight face and it's a joke that his frequent discrediting isn't getting more attention. @Flea would you be willing to vote there?
I've been flicking back over the Major/Flea interactions and just have that horrible sinking feeling that I'm missing something as I'm finding it quite hard to get a good read on that face of the game. Independently, I reckon Major has more chance of being town then Flea though.
If Flea and/or others aren't interested in the near future in voting Osuka then I'll take a Raya or T3 wagon, whichever feels like it has more traction.
I'm gonna be out and about tomorrow but will be home in the evening and will be around on Monday in the hours leading up to the deadline so that we can deal with any last minute issues.- Marky Mark
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I don't quite follow?In post 493, Flea The Magician wrote:Im going to go an a limb and say it's "because [I'm] talking out of [my] ass"- Flea The Magician
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They've already said I'm pulling stuff from my arse, extrapolation has them implying I'll be talkin from me arse lolIn post 478, osuka wrote: i just showed that you were pulling that straight out of your assWanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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Ah right, with you
I'm going to bed - catch all you lovely people tomorrowIn post 490, Marky Mark wrote:@Flea would you be willing to vote there?- Umlaut
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Honestly calling me lazy is fair, I've sort of lost interest in this day and I think proceeding to a flip will help. Also I actually feel pretty good about the Major wagon and don't really see the need to exert myself.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- Umlaut
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This reaction is like +++town, scum almost certainly takes that moment to accuse me of "backpedaling" or somethingIn post 471, Dwlee99 wrote:It would have been a lot easier to know you're evil if you didn't just make that post. Now it's complicated.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- osuka
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when did i say i suspected t3?In post 483, Enchant wrote:Osuka, who you suspect expect for me and T3check out osuka's votecounter + modtools, and get to know an idiot (me!)
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