Open 828 | The Brethren Coalition | Game Over!

[Farren]

So I don't see any merit in hurting them at the moment. I think this is more interesting, and hopefully will produce better results than the last time I ran an experiment with Enchant involved.

[Farren]

cyrus - you come across to me like you're in wheeling-and-dealing mode. Is that where your head is now?

[Enchant]

I will never comprehend your logic. I just healed myself. Or is that's looked charismatistic?
I don't mind though.

So we should think of five people we fully trust to be town and vote them. If we get 5 right we win yay lets see if we can do it.

People die if they are killed.

Hey I say go ahead and single me out. I have to decied who I think is town as well.

So I think pev and enchant could be scum. Or feral and pev or feral and enchant but I won't be voteing these 3 for the 5.

So basically you decided to not go in coalition.
You also throws me, feral and and pev from this one.
That's 4 people already. So basically you think everyone else is town and coalition locked?
Good luck with that.

If I was scum why would I do that?

Oh well.

Town motivation to remove self:
... Uuuh. I really can't see reason. Give me? Because you basically lowering chances for instant win if you keep self out.

Scum motivation:
Doesh't want to be caught in coalition with partner.

I consider this very bad play. But i believe, mafia don't want to be SO blatant. Either way, stop please.

So I don't see any merit in hurting them at the moment. I think this is more interesting, and hopefully will produce better results than the last time I ran an experiment with Enchant involved.

Thankfully i don't remember that.


Either way, we have two ways how to play it and i am thinking now which is best.
1. Most obvious, try to get all townies in coalition. Already explained. I am a bit sceptical about chances to get 0 mafias on Coalition. Unless we are scumreading gods. I am not.
2. Try to get all potential mafia members in coalition. Sounds counterreversal, but if we get both mafia on coalition, this would be easy game, as we need just simple elim everyone from coalition for win. I am not sure about row chances to get 2 mafias on coalition, but if it's higher than getting 0 mafias, probably we should go for that.

[yessiree]

I think it's best to simply carry on as usual, forming townreads organically, then vote the top 5 most universally townreads to the coalition

[yessiree]

@MOD

actually I have a question

A rule states "A majority Coalition is agreed upon when at least five players have the

same group

of five people proposed as a Coalition. At this point, the Coalition is locked in and cannot be changed." => this implies coalition votes have to be in tuples of 5s, i.e, 5 people have to vote for the same coalition for it to be locked in

but the way you are handling coalition votes right now is counting individual votes and not tuples

I just want to make sure the coalition is locked in as a tuple of 5 at the same time rather than one coalition member being locked in one after another after reaching 5 votes

[yessiree]

Deciding who's not in the five will give us the five. I should be in the coalition but I don't expect to be unanimous for it, if I make it at all. I usually tend to get scumread. That's fine though. I don't have to be in it for town to win d1.

The queston is would town win if you were in it?

If I was in it I wouldn't be the one stoping town from wining.

Town can win with me in it or not . But if I was they would just need 4 more.

Almost tempted to townread cyrus just for this

[yessiree]

if not for the weird "willing to remove myself from coalition" posturing

[redtea]

@MOD

actually I have a question

A rule states "A majority Coalition is agreed upon when at least five players have the

same group

of five people proposed as a Coalition. At this point, the Coalition is locked in and cannot be changed." => this implies coalition votes have to be in tuples of 5s, i.e, 5 people have to vote for the same coalition for it to be locked in

but the way you are handling coalition votes right now is counting individual votes and not tuples

I just want to make sure the coalition is locked in as a tuple of 5 at the same time rather than one coalition member being locked in one after another after reaching 5 votes

Correct, a Coalition will not be locked in until there are 5 identical groups proposed by 5 different players.
Players do not have to propose 5 people all at once, though none will be locked in until the previously stated conditions are met.

[Pavowski]

HEAL: Yessir for the effort to read Cyrus in good faith

[Pavowski]

4 votes to heal enchant and if we get it wrong we can't win day1

I should probably be townreading Cyrus for this.

Grumble grumble

[Pavowski]

UNVOTE: Cyrus but I am not putting you in my coalition yet

[cyrus62]

UNVOTE: Cyrus but I am not putting you in my coalition yet

I anit even willing to put my self there HEAL: yessir but I am willing to work with you. Who else do you trust.

[cyrus62]

if not for the weird "willing to remove myself from coalition" posturing

Scum want at least one member in the 5 me removing my self as scum would be game throwing. And I'm also willingness to be today's elemation if I am put in the 5 and we don't win now who's willng to put themselves up for elemation if they are locked in and we don't win?

[cyrus62]

I will never comprehend your logic. I just healed myself. Or is that's looked charismatistic?
I don't mind though.

So we should think of five people we fully trust to be town and vote them. If we get 5 right we win yay lets see if we can do it.

People die if they are killed.

Hey I say go ahead and single me out. I have to decied who I think is town as well.

So I think pev and enchant could be scum. Or feral and pev or feral and enchant but I won't be voteing these 3 for the 5.

So basically you decided to not go in coalition.
You also throws me, feral and and pev from this one.
That's 4 people already. So basically you think everyone else is town and coalition locked?
Good luck with that.

If I was scum why would I do that?

Oh well.

Town motivation to remove self:
... Uuuh. I really can't see reason. Give me? Because you basically lowering chances for instant win if you keep self out.

Scum motivation:
Doesh't want to be caught in coalition with partner.

I consider this very bad play. But i believe, mafia don't want to be SO blatant. Either way, stop please.

So I don't see any merit in hurting them at the moment. I think this is more interesting, and hopefully will produce better results than the last time I ran an experiment with Enchant involved.

Thankfully i don't remember that.


Either way, we have two ways how to play it and i am thinking now which is best.
1. Most obvious, try to get all townies in coalition. Already explained. I am a bit sceptical about chances to get 0 mafias on Coalition. Unless we are scumreading gods. I am not.
2. Try to get all potential mafia members in coalition. Sounds counterreversal, but if we get both mafia on coalition, this would be easy game, as we need just simple elim everyone from coalition for win. I am not sure about row chances to get 2 mafias on coalition, but if it's higher than getting 0 mafias, probably we should go for that.

no you're not useing proper logic as town I am willing to keep my self out as a act of good faith why because right now I would think scum was would want either of them in it there is only 7 town 5 day 2 and 3 day 3 if we don't hit scum so scums best actions is to be the 5

[Enchant]

What

[Nathann]

I'm tempted to townread cyrus for now. The willingness to work with Pavowski and to form his Coalition feel genuine at least. I also have a weak tonal Townread on Pavowski.

HEAL: cyrus
HEAL: Pavowski

Yes, I know they're currently doing the "build the Coalition without us in it" exercise.

If I had to come up with a Scumread, I think Farren's the closest to it? He gives me a vibe of an analytical player, who right now feels as if he's forcing himself to post and keep up the analytical appearance? But the game isn't exactly full of content, to be fair. Everyone else feels null so far.

2. Try to get all potential mafia members in coalition. Sounds counterreversal, but if we get both mafia on coalition, this would be easy game, as we need just simple elim everyone from coalition for win. I am not sure about row chances to get 2 mafias on coalition, but if it's higher than getting 0 mafias, probably we should go for that.

You do understand that we won't know whether it's 1 or 2 Scum in the Coalition if it fails, right?

[cyrus62]

i trust nathann how about you pavv?

[Enchant]

Yea, i understand that.

Not great plan is it?

[Hakai]

Co mod ego have fun y'all~

Fun? This is mafia, we get toxic and condemn innocent villagers!

Enchant, how's it feel to be the most trusted player so far?

HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Enchant

HEAL: enchant

HEAL: STD

My god! You've figured out how to heal STD's?

HURT: Cyrus

This is easy, got one already

Is this post serious?

I'm afraid of commitment, I'm just slinging the hurt around for now

Saying this out loud in the thread is probably slightly towny.

I will work with you pav let's remove you and I and look for the 5 why is enchant town? Can we trust std?

Hard to explain but cyrus's intentions fel pure?

I will work with you pav let's remove you and I and look for the 5 why is enchant town? Can we trust std?

Why would I remove myself?

I find it hard to trust STD but who knows

Why?

out of the 9 which two do you distrust the most.

I don't know yet.

I've played 2 games with StD. In one he was scum, the other is ongoing. I just have a hard time reading him.

I see.

Hey guys, I only know a few people here

Errr I meant ahoy mateys I've only seen some of yous 'round'ere

This post is very slightly towny, scum probably won't be awkward in-thread.

cyrus - you come across to me like you're in wheeling-and-dealing mode. Is that where your head is now?

VOTE: Farren

I will never comprehend your logic. I just healed myself. Or is that's looked charismatistic?
I don't mind though.

So we should think of five people we fully trust to be town and vote them. If we get 5 right we win yay lets see if we can do it.

People die if they are killed.

Hey I say go ahead and single me out. I have to decied who I think is town as well.

So I think pev and enchant could be scum. Or feral and pev or feral and enchant but I won't be voteing these 3 for the 5.

So basically you decided to not go in coalition.
You also throws me, feral and and pev from this one.
That's 4 people already. So basically you think everyone else is town and coalition locked?
Good luck with that.

If I was scum why would I do that?

Oh well.

Town motivation to remove self:
... Uuuh. I really can't see reason. Give me? Because you basically lowering chances for instant win if you keep self out.

Scum motivation:
Doesh't want to be caught in coalition with partner.

I consider this very bad play. But i believe, mafia don't want to be SO blatant. Either way, stop please.

So I don't see any merit in hurting them at the moment. I think this is more interesting, and hopefully will produce better results than the last time I ran an experiment with Enchant involved.

Thankfully i don't remember that.


Either way, we have two ways how to play it and i am thinking now which is best.
1. Most obvious, try to get all townies in coalition. Already explained. I am a bit sceptical about chances to get 0 mafias on Coalition. Unless we are scumreading gods. I am not.
2. Try to get all potential mafia members in coalition. Sounds counterreversal, but if we get both mafia on coalition, this would be easy game, as we need just simple elim everyone from coalition for win. I am not sure about row chances to get 2 mafias on coalition, but if it's higher than getting 0 mafias, probably we should go for that.

I believe this post is meta scummy for Enchant but I'll need more data.

I'm tempted to townread cyrus for now. The willingness to work with Pavowski and to form his Coalition feel genuine at least. I also have a weak tonal Townread on Pavowski.

HEAL: cyrus
HEAL: Pavowski

Yes, I know they're currently doing the "build the Coalition without us in it" exercise.

If I had to come up with a Scumread, I think Farren's the closest to it? He gives me a vibe of an analytical player, who right now feels as if he's forcing himself to post and keep up the analytical appearance? But the game isn't exactly full of content, to be fair. Everyone else feels null so far.

2. Try to get all potential mafia members in coalition. Sounds counterreversal, but if we get both mafia on coalition, this would be easy game, as we need just simple elim everyone from coalition for win. I am not sure about row chances to get 2 mafias on coalition, but if it's higher than getting 0 mafias, probably we should go for that.

You do understand that we won't know whether it's 1 or 2 Scum in the Coalition if it fails, right?

Oh hi Kilga!

[cyrus62]

HEAL: nathann so now I'm going see if pav. Agrees .

[cyrus62]

@nathann unvote your self to show me I can work with you

[Save The Dragons]

you don't trust me? :crying:

[Enchant]

Hakai, did i play with you early?
Can't remember that.

[cyrus62]

you don't trust me? :crying:

Give me a reason hurt your self.

[Save The Dragons]

i'm town so i'm not going to