aight, I'm back to finish this up
I was just rereading
in ISO and I've decided I like her a lot more as a townread than I was feeling yesterday - the main impression that I was worried about with her was that I can't shake the feeling that she's playing things a bit safe, always posting Reasonable Theory Analysis Takes but not putting herself out there to push reads too aggressively. However, rereading things today with fresh eyes, I see a lot of indicators I usually like for town - a couple major seemingly organic reads reversals from beginning of game to present moment (Pav going from scumread to D2 locktown, Enchant devolving from D1 townread to a D2 vote), similar to my Bingle townread
532 strikes me as a thought process that's unlikely to be faked by scum - lamenting a botched opportunity to pressure Pav in a more direct manner, the low-key T3 townread on D1 I don't see benefitting a scum agenda when T3 is an easy slot to fake a scumread on. I also think the pillars of her scumread on Lickety (Lickety's flip flopping uncertainty on his Roden SR, especially with Lickety being mistaken about the timing of when Roden disappeared and when LQ's scumread was 'reinforced') are genuine. I was feeling paranoid here earlier this day phase but I'm thinking now any paranoia is better directe4d elsewhere.
on
- I'm having a hard time knowing how to feel about his laid back tonal style. I think if I'm being honest I probably I just tend to reflexively scumread it because I always worry about scum using charisma / "I'm just having fun here man" vibes to get away with not really putting themselves out there. same reason I always scumread Aristophanes if any of y'all have played with him before, and The Dude avatar probably doesn't help
. Actually re-ISOing Pav again now, I'm back to thinking in terms of his actual content, he feels pretty townie. I like
424 a lot, it gets to the point what was questionable about what LQ posted but without stirring up any additional drama to push LQ. I think with some time to reflect on it that the fact that he completely missed what I was accusing him of slipping in his
723 is pure, as if he
had
slipped any knowledge he'd surely understand what I was talking about the first time. his
766 and
769 are good posts.
so that brings me to the two people I'd be willing to vote right now:
- I think my biggest issue with Lickety is that at times it feels like he's going through the effort of
telling
the thread how he is thinking, instead of just actually
thinking
.
210 ("I feel you are being manipulative, but if you explain I will move on"),
252 (the unprompted addition of "I'm not scumreading Auro because I expect him to do this as scum"),
402 (why is he saying both that T3's read is weird but also that he agrees with it??),
404 I hadn't noticed this previously but using "until" in that post when presumably he meant "unless" is an odd mistake,
415 feels super stiff and
416 as Pav called out is really dubious because he's basically inviting Roden to be townread if Roden backs off his LQ push. That mindset feels a lot more likely to come from someone who wants to defuse the fight rather than someone who actually thinks Roden might be scum.
683 is a tremendously uninspiring readslist. While I know town!LQ often has weird takes, I don't remember ever seeing him post something so surface level. And the way he specifically picks only Galron to scumread feels non-confrontational towards his other nulls and very forced.
753 and
756 are weirdly timid in terms of being willing to vote T3, and
796 is super WIFOMy - he's trying to imply mc esther is ignoring the Obvious Town Reasoning behind "what he's doing", but he's not actually explaining why he's doing what he's doing. Like there's no effort to sell mc esther on his Bingle suspicions here, just defensiveness. Same issue with his
804 - says Roden's suspicion on him is for NAI reasons, but doesn't have any apparent drive to explain why those reasons are applying to his town game here.
and saying he'll step up his effort over night but he's not going to bother to do it now if he's going to get limmed is a scummy move, as if we're being unfair expecting him to "put in work", and purposefully dangling a carrot of Actual LQ Effort to bargain us to lim somewhere else. It's also odd that despite that he then also promises to do something tomorrow in the very next sentence.
as for
- they didn't vote on D1 at all after voting DArby in
43, I didn't like their posting around the Salsa wagon EOD - encouraged it along and said they were tempted to hammer, but also then said they had her as town and bet she flips green - if they were invested in his Salsa townread they should have done more to push elsewhere when all they did was goad for a Salsa lim. The DArby scumread on D2 lacks any conviction whatsoever when DArby is basically the most universally townread player, and Enchant has not mentioned or interacted with LQ in any substantive sense whatsoever outside of his vote there today. I don't see anything in the entire ISO that makes me think there's a solvey town intent behind anything they've posted.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
~ 
