Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

Dwlee99 · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:46 pm

Doesn't knowing a scum for sure give us info?

Dunnstral · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:47 pm

Theoretical math has no place in this discussion

We win the game by eliminating the mafia in the group of 5.

Does eliminating between IV and Mc Esther help us figure that out or not? What info does that give us Dwlee?

ISO · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:49 pm

VOTE: dwlee that howling was pretty realistic

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:49 pm

In post 651, Dunnstral wrote:Theoretical math has no place in this discussion

Dwlee99 · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:49 pm

Well rn everyone is operating on assumption MC Esther is scum right

And I think that assumption also plays into people's reads of her interactions with people in the big group to solve

If we confirm the assumption it doesn't hurt our odds of hitting scum in the big group

If it actually is IV I think the entire game changes

Prism · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:50 pm

I think 651 is intellectually dishonest but w/e I'll come back another time

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:50 pm

In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:If it actually is IV I think the entire game changes

In what way bub.

- Norwee

Dwlee99 · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:50 pm

In post 652, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: dwlee that howling was pretty realistic

Rat man rat man rat man

Dwlee99 · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:50 pm

In post 656, Brighter Puppy wrote:
In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:If it actually is IV I think the entire game changes
In what way bub.

- Norwee

In that everyone is wrong and needs to reevaluate a lot of things

Dwlee99 · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:51 pm

Common position: IV town

If consensus opinion is proven wrong then it questions other consensus opinions

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:51 pm

In post 658, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 656, Brighter Puppy wrote:
In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:If it actually is IV I think the entire game changes
In what way bub.

- Norwee
In that everyone is wrong and needs to reevaluate a lot of things

Very helpful Einstein.

- Norwee

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:52 pm

"If people are wrong, they need to consider that they are wrong"

Why are you town again Dwlee?

- Norwee

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:53 pm

In post 658, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 656, Brighter Puppy wrote:
In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:If it actually is IV I think the entire game changes
In what way bub.

- Norwee
In that everyone is wrong and needs to reevaluate a lot of things

Thats true of every successful/uncessful elim
Do you think us flipping either IV/Mc-esther right or wrong helps us figure out anyone elses alignment.

For instance does IV flip scum tell u anyone in group of 5. If so, why.
Cause if IV flipped scum I can tell u, i don't know how that impacts any of my reads other than I was wrong about IV.

ISO · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:54 pm

Remember when dwlee did that thing yesterday?

No you dont because dwlee did nothing yesterday

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:55 pm

In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:And I think that assumption also plays into people's reads of her interactions with people in the big group to solve

See this is the problem, MC Esther hasn't been interacting with the big hood. Their ISO is empty. All their content is based on small hood, small mind, thinking.

- Norwee

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:58 pm

Big hood is big brain thinking.
Me and Fire will repeat this until the town stop this math-induced intellectual dysphoria of small hood thinking.

- Norwee

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:58 pm

theres using math to help u make decisions, and then theres usuing math in subsitute of actually solve game.
i could forgive pushing in esther/iv because both ur saying math tells u its right and u have a very conf scumread. But it seems like u only have the first

Math isn't a substitute for playing the game.

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:10 pm

I think me and Fire agree pretty much on this point.

Dwlee is one of the scummier players on the big hood as of right now.

If both IV and MC Esther could pretend the other didn't exist, and give us their big and honest read on Dwlee and whether they'd consider them an good lim today. That would be an good start on getting your head out from the "small hood" narrow-minded thinking.
Later you all might even give us your reads on other slots in the big hood. And maybe even some... *gasp* TOWNREADS???!
You might not believe it is possible, but i believe in you all. I believe we can reach the sky. I believe we can breach the limit. I believe... we can solve this game.

- Norwee

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:13 pm

And in other much less breaking news. Fire's vote in a game of mafia was dumb...
UNVOTE:

- Norwee

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:23 pm

Okay so i have a semi-actual case on dwlee based on some evidence i have collected through extensive research. I have audited them extensively basically.

So in our PT I will paraphrase but Dwlee mentions why they voted for Todoraki yesterday:

prism was confident about it and i townread prism

<--not exact quote

Ohh thats fine and dandy. Prism is confident u say?
When i pushed on this pointing out theres multiple points of prism not being confident in game thread. I get fired back with that theres multiple points of them being confident in this very thread.

I go "Ohh really?"

So by the time Dwlee voted. Prism had made exactly 1 post in our thread about todoraki.
The brief paraphrase

I was trying to reaction test todoraki, but the response he gave didn't convince me. He still in a weird zone for me and I need to do more testing on him to see if i can see if i get that "why would scum lukewarm do this"

<--again paraphrase no fite me mod

SO THIS IS THE CONFIDENCE WE TALKING ABOUT? OR IS IT POSTFACTO RATIONALE

Dwlee99 · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:56 pm

The confidence was in the main thread then

Dwlee99 · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:56 pm

Does it actually matter where the confidence was displayed if I read it and connected the dots

Dwlee99 · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:01 pm

To your timestamp stuff in the hood, which shouldn't even be in the hood in the first place:

Tue Jan 18, 2022 15:52:02

In post 392, Prism wrote:Again I do not find the first paragraph persuasive at all given Guardians. You played your heart out and did well but still fell to more experienced players, and it is not just Pooky you are afraid of.

VOTE: Todoroki

I really do not like what Esther has given either, I don't know if she is just annoyed because I've never pushed her before or what, but I feel confident that 391 is a borderline scumclaim.

Borderline scumclaim

I feel confident

Brighter Puppy · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:01 pm

Don't mind Fire.
He thought he had an slam dunk case. But it's not really all that AI imo.
Doesn't mean i think ur town tho.

- Norwee

Dwlee99 · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:03 pm

In post 664, Brighter Puppy wrote:
In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:And I think that assumption also plays into people's reads of her interactions with people in the big group to solve
See this is the problem, MC Esther hasn't been interacting with the big hood. Their ISO is empty. All their content is based on small hood, small mind, thinking.

- Norwee

Okay but people have interacted with her and IV