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Post Post #3375 (ISO) » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:24 pm

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In post 3371, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3366, Looker wrote:But I posted them forever ago
And I have been doing 60-70 hour weeks.

So the last thing I want to do is more casing when it doesn’t seem anyone reads it and you’re not going to say you’re scum in thread. So I would rather not do busywork but if I am ever not exhausted I will. The facts stand for themselves.
In post 3374, MathBlade wrote:Looker why haven’t you voted Koba?

If Koba is town then if you’re town then scum could hammer you just as easily as Koba.
If Koba is scum then if you’re town it’s the right vote.

Those are the only two possibilities worth asking about as the “if you’re scum” options you won’t admit to.
I don't really give a fuck what you and DkKoba engineered in your PT, but if you're not going to play with me, I'm not going to play with you.
In post 3363, Looker wrote:Also, @Math - can you answer my three questions/requests for information? To include your assessment of my voting pattern.
Spoiler:
In post 3329, Looker wrote:
In post 3325, MathBlade wrote:Started suspecting them here.
Their voting pattern doesn’t match what they are saying.
And most of their posts don’t seem to follow a train of recognizable thought.
What has been my voting pattern?
In post 3346, Looker wrote:
In post 3340, Looker wrote:
In post 3333, MathBlade wrote:I have been spewed town already lol.
Where?
In post 3335, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3332, Looker wrote:I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?
Lmao this is comedic gold
I quoted the post where you list three scum after Dwlee reveals and they’re in it
Bro, I need some red meat.
Can you highlight it? I don't see it.

We can wait until the replacement or until you feel people are worthy enough to be answered, idc. But I'm positive I work longer hours than you and with far more people, so I find your excuse invalid and desperate.
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Post Post #3376 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:25 am

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In post 1831, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 2.04With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (4): Milk & Mocha, numberQ, Three, Voyc,
numberQ (1): Firebringer,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Alyssa The Lamb (1): Harley Quinn,
Enchnat (1): Alyssa The Lamb,
Voyc (1): Andante,
Firebringer (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(3): RH9, MegAzumarill, Enchant,
Deadline:
(expired on 2022-01-05 19:00:00)


Harley Quinn on V/LA
In post 2331, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 2.06With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (5): numberQ, Three, Voyc, Enchant, MegAzumarill,
Alyssa The Lamb (2): Harley Quinn, Firebringer,
Voyc (1): Andante,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Three (1): Alyssa The Lamb,
Firebringer (0):
Enchnat (0):
numberQ (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(2): RH9, Milk & Mocha,
Deadline:
Postponed


Harley Quinn is on V/LA and the most active around here.
Your voting pattern, took me a minute to ISO on my phone.
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Post Post #3377 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:28 am

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Where have I been spewed town? >> This entire day phase multiple times lol.

Already quoted. Not repeating the same thing again.

And it’s not about “worth” I don’t view people as more or less worthy to play with, I despise that implication. I never, ever lie about RL as any alignment.

The fact you aren’t voting Koba lends credence to a possible bus. Are you going to do the protown thing and vote Koba?
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Post Post #3378 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:40 am

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In which post was it quoted
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Post Post #3379 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:42 am

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And "lol" does not relieve you of accountability. You've failed - again - to show where you were spewed town. But thank you for respecting my wishes and responding instead of lurking like a poor sport. I appreciate that from one player to another.
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Post Post #3380 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:00 am

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In post 3335, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3332, Looker wrote:I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?
Lmao this is comedic gold
I quoted the post where you list three scum after Dwlee reveals and they’re in it

And no, it’s not a formality.
The answer was is and always will be Dwlee votes and that person dies period.

We need Dwlee on the elim and so they decide.
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Post Post #3381 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:11 am

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In post 3379, Looker wrote:And "lol" does not relieve you of accountability. You've failed - again - to show where you were spewed town. But thank you for respecting my wishes and responding instead of lurking like a poor sport. I appreciate that from one player to another.
I am not quoting the entire day.

I think you don’t understand how elo give and pulls work and I don’t have time to explain.

Numbers is lock scum because of Koba’s vote

If Koba is scum (the position you’re forced to hold and why your lack of vote is sus) then the vote comes from a reason. That means a defense of another person and the only person being pushed hard is Numbers by me.

If Koba is town then they genuinely believe you are scum. Then they have said that I am right on my reads which again makes me de facto town.

So there’s no angle for scum to push me successfully.

A good elo game is about pushing people and seeing what angles do and don’t come out.

Quinn’s was good so this should be a matter of if Koba is bussing you.

I cannot quote the day but you should be selling Koba scum if you’re town rather than trying to assail the unassaible. It’s fruitless.
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Post Post #3382 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:16 am

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The lack of vote on Koba is pretty much a scum claim to me I am just wondering more why at this point.
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Post Post #3383 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:08 am

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Dwlee if yr expecting me to suddenly tryhard its not happening
looker slipped and thats that
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Post Post #3384 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:08 am

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Vote Count 5.05With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Looker (1): DkKoba,
DkKoba (0):
Mathblade (0):
numberQ (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(6):Looker, Mathblade, Dwlee99, MegAzumarill, Harley Quinn, numberQ,
Deadline:
Postponed


Spoiler: Replacement guide
Not_Mafia->Alyssa The Lamb->Looker
Andante->mc esther
kunchi->ahhlo->Enchant
datsi->Voyc->DkKoba
DArby->Harley Quinn
Toogeloo->Firebringer->Mathblade
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Post Post #3385 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:33 am

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@3380 - That post doesn't reference Numbers.

Also, as stated, either Koba, Quinn or myself would be the scum. I do appreciate your effort and will not be entirely upset if it's rewarded by a replacement that does not read thoroughly...but you're wrong...and more than likely scum.
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Post Post #3386 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:31 am

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It doesn’t? I fail to see your point.

You have stated this but fypov if you were town Koba would be lock scum. There’s no other possibility.

If Koba is town voting you you should be trying to convince them they are wrong. Sure if Quinn is scum (which I doubt) scum can’t quick hammer right now but with Koba you voting town you an elim would be impossible. Instead you’re more focused on me which is again curious.

The more you resist the more a bus is probable here.

And this is a new question after I answered yours now you’re dodging mine

If you’re town based on elo rules you should be voting Koba. Why aren’t you?
If you say it’s because Koba could be town why aren’t you trying to save the game here?
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Post Post #3387 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:32 am

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There’s no agency and you’re intentionally trying to get a ride out of me versus attacking Koba. What do you make of this Koba?
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Post Post #3388 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:36 am

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In post 3383, DkKoba wrote:Dwlee if yr expecting me to suddenly tryhard its not happening
looker slipped and thats that
Lame
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3389 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:48 am

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In post 3331, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 3264, Looker wrote:
In post 3261, Kerset wrote:
Dwlee99 have been revealed as
Innocent Child
DkKoba (Voyc)/Harley Quinn/MegAzumarill

I don't like that both Mathfire's and DkKobaVoyc's slots fakeclaimed IC (Voyc didn't strike me as very impactful, either, and - much like Quinn and Meg - voted predominantly town). Willing to vote Quinn as potential scum to ease burden of replacement. Meg is paranoia.

@IC: Can I vote? As in, are you ready to die?
In post 3297, Looker wrote:Is this because I flipped from Dwlee to you?

Also, was DkKoba trying to normalize IC fakeclaims to make Firebringer look less scummy?

Also, also, has no one really meta'd me to see where the sandwich came from? Can that desperation be recognized in other visual behaviors? (The last sentence is admittedly kind of paranoid)

This doesn’t make any sense.

Either A> Looker is sussing the IC which is bad
Or B>
He says it’s me + Koba + Numbers

In which case he’d help me bus numbers but isn’t

The sandwich thing also contributes
In post 3332, Looker wrote:I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And
where did Numbers come from
?
In post 3333, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 3330, Looker wrote:
In post 3328, MathBlade wrote:Looker was a posts kept getting worse and worse read and with that on the end, I am pretty confident Looker is scum especially if it’s Numbers/Meg/Looker.
Are you sure it's not because you kept asking me about sandwiches...? Or because we've had two slots fakeclaim IC and are waiting for a replacement to elim one of them...?


Koba’s the only one that can possibly be scum though.

I have been spewed town already lol.

And it’s Koba
They do bad tunnels

So it’s realistically Numbers/Looker/Meg
In post 3335, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 3332, Looker wrote:I thought all this discussion was a formality. Are we not elimming DkKoba/MathFireBladeBringer when Harley Quinn is replaced?

p-edit: Sussing how? Can you explain? And where did Numbers come from?


Lmao this is comedic gold
I quoted the post where you list three scum after Dwlee reveals and they’re in it


And no, it’s not a formality.
The answer was is and always will be Dwlee votes and that person dies period.

We need Dwlee on the elim and so they decide.

In post 3385, Looker wrote:@3380 - That post doesn't reference Numbers.
In post 3386, MathBlade wrote:It doesn’t? I fail to see your point.
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Post Post #3390 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:55 am

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Also... (since I've already stated that, due to me not being hammered, scum has to be myself, DkKoba, or Harley Quinn)
  • In case of scum!DkKoba/scum!Harley Quinn
  • Nothing can be accomplished until town votes me.

    In case of scum!DkKoba/town!Harley Quinn
  • Same. Nothing can be done until town votes me.

    In case of town!DkKoba/scum!Harley Quinn
  • I'd rather DkKoba lose the game than me. We'll figure this out when Harley Quinn replaces and if they coordinate a quickhammer with scum

    In case of town!DkKoba/town!Harley Quinn
  • If this were the case, I'd be dead already. Unless I was scum. I don't think VCA or play suggests this.
I feel like you're attacking me as the weakest link (metaphorically, you're not actually unpleasantly aggressive), but there are several other players who could be voting. I honestly just don't want to give you the satisfaction of getting me to vote town in the off chance DkKoba is town. I'd rather be quickhammered and let DkKoba lose the game for us.
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Post Post #3391 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:07 am

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In post 3390, Looker wrote:Also... (since I've already stated that, due to me not being hammered, scum has to be myself, DkKoba, or Harley Quinn)
  • In case of scum!DkKoba/scum!Harley Quinn
  • Nothing can be accomplished until town votes me.

    In case of scum!DkKoba/town!Harley Quinn
  • Same. Nothing can be done until town votes me.

    In case of town!DkKoba/scum!Harley Quinn
  • I'd rather DkKoba lose the game than me. We'll figure this out when Harley Quinn replaces and if they coordinate a quickhammer with scum

    In case of town!DkKoba/town!Harley Quinn
  • If this were the case, I'd be dead already. Unless I was scum. I don't think VCA or play suggests this.
I feel like you're attacking me as the weakest link (metaphorically, you're not actually unpleasantly aggressive), but there are several other players who could be voting. I honestly just don't want to give you the satisfaction of getting me to vote town in the off chance DkKoba is town. I'd rather be quickhammered and let DkKoba lose the game for us.
And this here is why you’re not town.

If Koba is town voting town then town you is already voting town. Scum don’t care which town to eliminate. So you voting Koba in that case doesn’t harm town any because then they just pick which wagon.
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Post Post #3392 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:08 am

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I mean you even put what I said in red? Like you’re quoting my posts but not seeing what needs a response.
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Post Post #3393 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:08 am

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So if you’re town you’d be cross voting Koba but you aren’t.
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Post Post #3394 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:08 am

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In post 3291, MathBlade wrote:You pretty much spewed me town
In post 3333, MathBlade wrote:I have been spewed town already lol.
In post 3377, MathBlade wrote:Where have I been spewed town? >> This entire day phase multiple times lol.
In post 3381, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3379, Looker wrote:And "lol" does not relieve you of accountability. You've failed - again - to show where you were spewed town. But thank you for respecting my wishes and responding instead of lurking like a poor sport. I appreciate that from one player to another.
I am not quoting the entire day.
Fortunately, you don't have to - can you show me one post where you were spewed town?


Spoiler: I think "too scummy to be scum" may be how Mathblade defends his partners
In post 3160, MathBlade wrote:too many people scumread the voyc slot for them to be scum.
In post 3181, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3179, Dwlee99 wrote:I think Koba is just in antispew mode at this point
I disagree.
I am town and am never voting Koba as I don’t scumread them. There’s too many people who do.


p-edit: Are you saying that I'm voting DkKoba right now?
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Post Post #3395 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:10 am

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Tempted to just vote koba but I shouldn't
:(

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Post Post #3396 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:16 am

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So let’s assume you’re town and Koba is town and you did vote Koba.

Looker (T) -> DkKoba (T)
And
DkKoba (T) -> DkKoba (T)
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Post Post #3397 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:17 am

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Ugh fuck my phone

The point is there would be two wagons both of which on town for scum to pick from

So in elo you always cross vote or it’s a scum claim
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Post Post #3398 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:18 am

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I mean what's the utility of the vote though? It doesn't accomplish anything atm
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Post Post #3399 (ISO) » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:19 am

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We already lose (in theory) if there is not scum in koba/Looker so what does the recurring vote bring?
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