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I'm reiterating explanations that I have already made and you willfully ignored to try to convince people they don't exist- furtiveglance
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furtiveglance (2*) Flea the Magician, Radical Rat
Radical Rat (2) Cat.jpeg, furtiveglance
Dunnstrall (1) MalcolmTucker
Not Voting (3) GoldfishFromtheMoon, Dunnstrall, Alianna
With 8 votes it takes 5* to make someone sleep with the fishes.
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This I completely agree with.In post 748, Radical Rat wrote: I do believe it is possible one scum chose to hide on the Titus wagon. However, my problem is that being on the wagon is not inherently scummy on its own, while furtive has been repeatedly reducing it to that.
Basically, scumreading someone who was on the Titus wagon is fine, but scumreading someone FOR being on the Titus wagon is questionable at best- GoldfishFromTheMoon
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In post 720, Alianna wrote:On second thought, the fact that your thoughts have been so all-over-the-place today is probably town-indicative.
UNVOTE:
I'll see myself out now.
A bit late to the party but these posts scream town at me, scum Alianna would have no reason to do this, and you can see that she KNOWS it looks scummy. This is also really typical Alianna town meta, she's done this before.In post 721, Alianna wrote:Why do I do this to myself?- GoldfishFromTheMoon
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I think there is exactly 1 scum in RR/furtive. It looks to me like a town/scum interaction, and if one of them flips town it's going to look really bad for the other.
Although throwing a crazy conspiracy out there (this is probably definitely wrong) what if it's both of them? Together, and this is a crazy megabus that's been going since day 1.- Alianna
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I'm thinking this too. Probably going to vote RR.In post 755, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:I think there is exactly 1 scum in RR/furtive. It looks to me like a town/scum interaction, and if one of them flips town it's going to look really bad for the other.
Although throwing a crazy conspiracy out there (this is probably definitely wrong) what if it's both of them? Together, and this is a crazy megabus that's been going since day 1.I townread Alianna.
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On hiatus from playing mafia.- Radical Rat
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I mean I'd rather not die just yet, I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.
I feel most confident in furtive here, but if everyone else is so sure he's town, I wouldn't mind looking for the second scum. Trouble is, I'm not anywhere near as certain on anyone else.
So I guess readslist wise, and I'll more clearly label it this time...
Strong Townread:
Alianna, Flea
Light Townread:
Goldfish
Indecisive:
Malcolm, Dunnstral
Light Scumread:
Cat
Strong Scumread:
furtive- GoldfishFromTheMoon
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This is an interesting pairing, if furtive is scum cat is probably the partner. furtive's associations with a lot of the player list make it highly unlikely they are paired, but this isn's so with cat.
At the moment I still fairly strongly town read cat, but if furtive turns out to be scum that might change.
This game has a lot of associatives.- GoldfishFromTheMoon
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Note this isn't to say I scumread either cat or furtive, only to say that if one of them IS scum, that is the most likely partnership.In post 758, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:This is an interesting pairing, if furtive is scum cat is probably the partner. furtive's associations with a lot of the player list make it highly unlikely they are paired, but this isn's so with cat.
At the moment I still fairly strongly town read cat, but if furtive turns out to be scum that might change.
This game has a lot of associatives.- GoldfishFromTheMoon
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Will you give us any hints?In post 757, Radical Rat wrote:I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.- MalcolmTucker
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That's what throws me a little bit reading it though. I'm really not keen on the self-awareness, insofar as it feels to me like scum Alianna could potentially be compensating for their lack of certainty on who to push with posts deliberately trying to make them appear more townie. Feel like I really need to see more from Alianna on Dunn here because otherwise their potential vote on Radical Rat feels quite opportunistic to me - it's not a slot they've pushed particularly hard and feels like it could be a concerted push for scum away from Furtive, who scum may have judged to be a more difficult elimination. Interested in any past meta which contradicts this though.In post 754, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:In post 720, Alianna wrote:On second thought, the fact that your thoughts have been so all-over-the-place today is probably town-indicative.
UNVOTE:
I'll see myself out now.
A bit late to the party but these posts scream town at me, scum Alianna would have no reason to do this,In post 721, Alianna wrote:Why do I do this to myself?and you can see that she KNOWS it looks scummy.This is also really typical Alianna town meta, she's done this before.- Radical Rat
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Suffice to say, I have opinions about why the Inform was chosen, and who might have been BPed, but I don't want to elaborate any further on that until we actually get the information. Otherwise, in the hypothetical scenario that you turn out to be scum, you could tailor your answers to either match or counter my expectations, and then the analysis wouldn't be useful anymoreIn post 760, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:
Will you give us any hints?In post 757, Radical Rat wrote:I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.- Dunnstral
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The inform, bp, and night kill have already all been decided
And you indicated that you think Goldfish is a light townread.
Malcolm's 761 above where he points at me and calls Furtive a more difficult elimination than radical rat while implying it's all to protect me is crazy. Why is my name in that conversation at all?- Dunnstral
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- furtiveglance
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I can't think of anything important to the game that you can't say today. Can you give us a clue?In post 760, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:
Will you give us any hints?In post 757, Radical Rat wrote:I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.- furtiveglance
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Ok this is meaningless. Does anyone understand or value this?In post 762, Radical Rat wrote:
Suffice to say, I have opinions about why the Inform was chosen, and who might have been BPed, but I don't want to elaborate any further on that until we actually get the information. Otherwise, in the hypothetical scenario that you turn out to be scum, you could tailor your answers to either match or counter my expectations, and then the analysis wouldn't be useful anymoreIn post 760, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:
Will you give us any hints?In post 757, Radical Rat wrote:I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.- Cat.Jpeg
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I didn't ever like this post but didn't say anything because I thought it made sense at the time. Scum probably thought of and discussed all the possibilities without town and this post just silenced town from also being aware of possibilities. I was kinda shocked when the inform ability came and then I realised it wasnt actually as op as i though when we started discussing it and all the ways scum could minimise the town help. The scum had clearly already thought of that when they picked it though.In post 123, Radical Rat wrote:I think we should hold conversation about what scum may or should do with each ability and their relative utility until AFTER the ability shows up. Let scum figure out their own strategies
This was the first reading of someone that you did, although it still wasnt direct sus, pretty lowhanging fruit that scum could easily jump on to. Im not saying this makes you scum im just saying it doesnt appear townie nor does any of your other reads. The game did get off to a slow start though.In post 201, Radical Rat wrote:"It's unlikely to hit Mafia D1, therefore I'm Town" sure is one of the defenses ever
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I think i might get what they are hinting at but they should have just said the whole thing or never brought it up. Maybe they want to use this so that people keep them alive until tomorrow so we hear what they think.In post 766, furtiveglance wrote:
Ok this is meaningless. Does anyone understand or value this?In post 762, Radical Rat wrote:
Suffice to say, I have opinions about why the Inform was chosen, and who might have been BPed, but I don't want to elaborate any further on that until we actually get the information. Otherwise, in the hypothetical scenario that you turn out to be scum, you could tailor your answers to either match or counter my expectations, and then the analysis wouldn't be useful anymoreIn post 760, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:
Will you give us any hints?In post 757, Radical Rat wrote:I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.- furtiveglance
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Malcolm isn't really on the table right now. Is there a reason why you're not engaging with the me/RR wagons?
A lot of your play has been self-defence, like why you voted Titus. It doesn't look good or towny.- Alianna
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Why would you do that instead of voting for furtive? Do you not scumread them anymore?
I townread Alianna.
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On hiatus from playing mafia.- Alianna
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What I think RR is saying is that they have expectations for who a hypothetical scum!Goldie would or would not claim to be informed of, but if they shared those thoughts now, she would be able to take that into consideration. I think it's a valid viewpoint if RR is town, but as Cat said, they could be scum using this to try to get us to keep them alive.In post 766, furtiveglance wrote:
Ok this is meaningless. Does anyone understand or value this?In post 762, Radical Rat wrote:
Suffice to say, I have opinions about why the Inform was chosen, and who might have been BPed, but I don't want to elaborate any further on that until we actually get the information. Otherwise, in the hypothetical scenario that you turn out to be scum, you could tailor your answers to either match or counter my expectations, and then the analysis wouldn't be useful anymoreIn post 760, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:
Will you give us any hints?In post 757, Radical Rat wrote:I have things to say that must wait until tomorrow.I townread Alianna.
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