Open 856: Deputy cultists (Game over)

ISO · Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:59 am

In post 844, furtiveglance wrote:1) Jacket/Nathann/RH9 claim Vengeful Townie. There are 2 in the setup. One of these 3 players is Cult.

2) I notice RH9 softing Vengeful multiple times and strongly townread Nathann from early game. I deduce that Jacket is Cult.

3) I (Town) vote Jacket (Cult), several times. If Jacket was Prime, Cult would vote with me. It helps their win condition as they can then convert town.

4) No one votes with me. Ever. Only Nathann and RH9 even listen to my thoughts. They are both town in my mind. Several shady characters - you, Bellaphant, Korina - all dissuade me from voting Jacket for various reasons, or just ignore my vote completely.

5) I deduce that Jacket is Cult Leader, as Cult are reluctant to vote them.

I see.
Though, I think that it is also possible that Beat is Prime with Jacket and Cult is planning to have Beat eliminated frst.

GoldfishFromTheMoon · Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:22 pm

Vote count 3.2

Beat (3) [E-2]

: BlueBloodedToffee, Nathann, Korina

Jacket (1)

: furtiveglance

Not voting (5)

: RH9, Bellaphant, Jacket, Beat, Enchant

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate

Day three ends in: (expired on 2022-07-08 08:00:00)

GoldfishFromTheMoon · Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:37 pm

prodding Enchant

ISO · Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:41 pm

I feel tempted to vote Beat.

ISO · Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:43 pm

RH9 wrote:I feel tempted to vote Beat.

But then, she feels too defeatist.

Bellaphant · Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:42 pm

The only thing that sticks out to me about furtives case is the lack of other votes. If he was buddy, surely it would be much easier to elim him? If it is jacket/beat, then jacket could actually be leader.

I'll wait for Enchant to give their thoughts

ISO · Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:46 pm

TBH I think that Jacket seems less invested than I remember scum!him being.

Enchant · Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:06 pm

You think CL is Jacket?

Well i see where it comes from, it's highly wined.
We can just yolo this to end torture. I think Jacket is Cult, i just doubt about CL. Well, it possible.

Bellaphant · Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:14 pm

Can you expand on your leader/puppet theory Enchant?

Enchant · Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:23 pm

Just in a case, Cult WANT for Vengeful die more than for Prime. For obvious reason.

Enchant · Post Post #860 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:24 pm

In post 858, Bellaphant wrote:Can you expand on your leader/puppet theory Enchant?

Exactly?

ISO · Post Post #861 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:32 pm

In post 859, Enchant wrote:Just in a case, Cult WANT for Vengeful die more than for Prime. For obvious reason.

I see.
Also, by the way, can you announce who you want to lim D4?
So it can help us figure out in case they convert you.

Enchant · Post Post #862 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:38 pm

In post 861, RH9 wrote:
In post 859, Enchant wrote:Just in a case, Cult WANT for Vengeful die more than for Prime. For obvious reason.
I see.
Also, by the way, can you announce who you want to lim D4?
So it can help us figure out in case they convert you.

If i am converted, i will always press "No Lim" or find excuse, so probably it will be easy. Claiming target at this point would be foolish, because i don't want give cult thoughts if i have right idea or not.

ISO · Post Post #863 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:44 pm

In post 862, Enchant wrote:
In post 861, RH9 wrote:
In post 859, Enchant wrote:Just in a case, Cult WANT for Vengeful die more than for Prime. For obvious reason.
I see.
Also, by the way, can you announce who you want to lim D4?
So it can help us figure out in case they convert you.
If i am converted, i will always press "No Lim" or find excuse, so probably it will be easy. Claiming target at this point would be foolish, because i don't want give cult thoughts if i have right idea or not.

I see.
Sorry about it.

Enchant · Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:54 pm

In post 863, RH9 wrote:
In post 862, Enchant wrote:
In post 861, RH9 wrote:
In post 859, Enchant wrote:Just in a case, Cult WANT for Vengeful die more than for Prime. For obvious reason.
I see.
Also, by the way, can you announce who you want to lim D4?
So it can help us figure out in case they convert you.
If i am converted, i will always press "No Lim" or find excuse, so probably it will be easy. Claiming target at this point would be foolish, because i don't want give cult thoughts if i have right idea or not.
I see.
Sorry about it.

Do you think Jacket is CL?

ISO · Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:08 pm

In post 864, Enchant wrote: Do you think Jacket is CL?

Not really since he seems pretty low-effort and less involved than I would expect of him to be acting if he was.

Beat · Post Post #866 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:01 am

VOTE: Bellaphant

If nothing more is to be said
Time to decide

ISO · Post Post #867 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:27 am

Beat, do you that your flip might change people's reads on Bella?

Beat · Post Post #868 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:15 pm

Perhaps, Ihope it lets them solve and If i am correct then yes I would.

This is the last vote of the game however way you slice it though. The rest is up to enchant to hit cl

ISO · Post Post #869 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:24 pm

In post 868, Beat wrote:This is the last vote of the game however way you slice it though. The rest is up to enchant to hit cl

That's true.
And due to plurality rules, you're probably going to be limmed even if you don't get hammered.

furtiveglance · Post Post #870 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:26 pm

I don't want Beat to get condemned. I want people to vote with me.

ISO · Post Post #871 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:45 pm

In post 870, furtiveglance wrote:I don't want Beat to get condemned. I want people to vote with me.

Sure.
Though, I don't think that CL!Jacket would be so disinterested.

Jacket · Post Post #872 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:15 pm

I'm not disinterested. I just don't have a good idea of who cult is.

ISO · Post Post #873 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:17 pm

In post 872, Jacket wrote:I'm not disinterested. I just don't have a good idea of who cult is.

I see.
Jacket, do you think that there could be Town motivation behind furtive's insistence on limming you?

Bellaphant · Post Post #874 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:05 am

Sorry, I'm thick, why do cult want venge to die more than prime?

Is it just body count?