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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:35 am

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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:10 am

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would like to hear some actual thoughts from looker before moving forward here
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:28 am

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Kind of thought it was a foregone conclusion that I was dying here since I was so contradictory yesterday. I figure you guys are going to kill off of Datisi's wagon since he flipped red.
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:32 am

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oh. that wasn't really my foregone conclusion tbh
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:36 am

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like i think your play yesterday surface level looks... not great, but it would also be kinda throwy as partners with datisi if he isn't even gonna try to stay alive

thats kinda an all in move to get a town elim and then hope somebody messes up in elo

and datisi did not seem on board with that at all
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:37 am

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it def could still be you but i don't think you're like guaranteed to be the lim or anything
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:00 am

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It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:01 pm

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these music references are way too boomer for me but im sure they're hilarious
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:54 pm

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I don't know shit.

If fire is town!VT, then we should win.
So i think need to focus about this thing.


For example, why would fire+datisi just accept me as town and then let Datisi just die?
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:27 pm

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In post 3008, Enchant wrote:why would fire+datisi just accept me as town and then let Datisi just die
In that world, then that's their bussing strategy.

Are you having double thoughts on Fire!Town?
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:35 pm

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As i said.

Game is won, As long as Fire is VT and i am not getting decapitated (which fairly can happen). There's no really need to find mafia, actually it's opposite. There's 2 VTs, 1 Mafia, 1 Mason not including me, finding VT is more likely than finding mafia at this point.

So let's throw towncases, decide on two VTs and if solve is right, win.


... Yes. I kinda have doubts about Fire.
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:17 am

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Without question you guys are going to be more familiar with the game state, so I'm pretty much willing to sheep the most compelling case. I'd be lying if I said I took the night phase to properly catch up.
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:08 am

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im not scum bc ive known the full mason team since the start of d2 and would have 100% killed implo sooner
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:20 am

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In post 1667, fireisredsir wrote:ive reread some things again and i changed my mind, i don't think i want to hunt on wagon anymore rn

im cool with looking mostly in [george, mala] for now

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since this post, to be specific

there were times where i considered the possibility of it being Ari/gamma/implo instead

(her followed by was a hilarious accidental crumb, and her and made a lot of correct assumptions in a way that seemed like it could be informed)

but def not by the time ari got killed. and i would have always killed implo first anyway
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:39 am

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In post 1669, Datisi wrote:
In post 1667, fireisredsir wrote:ive reread some things again and i changed my mind, i don't think i want to hunt on wagon anymore rn
i really wanna hear what these ~things~ are
also lol at this, smh datisi
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:56 am

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anyway it started when implosion made , i was extremely confused. this is not a post that i would ever expect to see from implosion.

the previous game i played with him was chromavalon (a game where scum wins if at the end they correctly guess who the muses are, which are a group of informed town). he was town and was v careful about this, changing his playstyle, putting a lot of thought into what thoughts he shared and how he shared them to avoid doing anything that might out a muse (and he was one of them).

so seeing him just casually say this was super weird, bc the obvious next thought i would expect him to have is "maybe george is a mason and that's why he isn't getting as much pressure". he even kinda hints at that with "not sure if it's a useful question to ask". so then why tf is he posting that at all?? i did not understand why he would post that as town

and as scum, there's also no reason to put it in thread. he would be aware that it looks like mason fishing, and if he believes the thought he would just keep it to the scum PT.

i only realized while rereading post-penguin-flip that there is a situation where he might post it, which is if he's scum partners with georgebailey. that way, he's lightly hinting that georgebailey could be a mason and thus shouldn't be pushed, but also on the surface it's a decent partner interaction to have in the ISO in case george ends up getting flipped.

however then i realized while writing about that possibility that he could be a mason without georgebailey, and it was some sort of gambit type thing to see how people respond, or he just wasn't worried about the implications of what he was saying since he knew george isn't a mason. and that possibility was enough to make me not want to go into all of that reasoning, but i still thought he was scum, so i posted , and wanted to hunt on wagon. then his response was good, ari had some good thoughts about the wagon analysis, and i realized some of the weirdness i had seen in multiple places could actually be mason-indicative rather than scum-indicative

i also think he kind of outed as mason to me by not questioning why i suddenly backed off him when he had me as someone he might be suspicious of

so anyway i kill implo n2 10 times out of 10 and i also don't have any reason as scum with datisi to beg him to stop hunting on the penguin wagon d2 (i was pretty sure he was town at that point, oops, i could have been more subtle)
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:59 am

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i guess i could do an obligatory reassess on enchant but ive kind of already locked them as town in my mind. implo was confident in it as well
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:29 pm

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With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.



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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:05 am

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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:34 am

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what makes you think looker over ss
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:51 am

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... What difference?
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:00 am

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idk, ill be happier if we win today instead of in elo
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:18 am

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the short, easy reason why it's s_s is that datisi started d2 with his whole "we should hunt on wagon" push bc he was the only scum on wagon and knew that he could outlive most of the rest of the people on it (except that half of them ended up being masons)

ari is also still right that the vp kill makes less sense from a scumteam with 2 people on the penguin wagon
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:19 am

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std did kinda revert to scum!std when he got busy but idk maybe busy!std just looks a lot like scum!std

i still think before that he was very towny
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:51 am

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In post 1131, Save The Dragons wrote:the biggest thing was a gut hunch on the first few pages but this post reminds me of how you were in that one game we just played where we were mafia together as you tried to get townie points. this post looks really forced and you tried to soften the blow by saying it was forced but i don't buy it at the present
idk if scum std enters with this (about datisi) as his first real opinion of the game on his scumbuddy and then drops it like immediately cause he kept reading and thought datisi was towny later

just kinda seems like he would be more worried about his trajectory there
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