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Can this mason already claim, because it's blatant fire is VT (or i am critically blind and fire playing me like fiddle), and if we wrongly lim another VT, mafia WILL know who are you... Like instantly?
Literally why the fuck, unless you think one of me/fire is mafia and can miss kill... Wait even then, why you not yelling at us already?
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I mean if fire and Enchant want to stake the game on the other being town then I won't contradict it, especially if hutmeil agrees.
Doesn't seem like anyone feels like engaging on a meaningful level, so whatever. Scum killed the mason I might have had a chance at convincing.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- fireisredsir
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Not me, because I read my role PM?
I'm obviously not gung-ho on any particular person being scum to the point where an argument would at all convince people not to vote me.
What I want to debate is more, what the hell was I doing all game? I was trying to protect the masons at the cost of worsening reads on myself, but if I'm scum that just sounds like a lose-lose. Unless you don't think I actually protected the masons, but you apparently knew the masons when scum were still lost, so there was at least some effort made to mislead them. I think it's entirely possible scum thought Ari was masons with me.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- fireisredsir
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i mean you survived until now so that seems pretty good to me
ari thought you were scum until she got convinced that you were mason and then hard defended you for it which kept you alive longer
you have stated before a lack of faith in your own scumplay abilities and so this playstyle seems like a reasonable approach from that perspective. it protects you from getting eliminated early, it prevents you from having strong associatives bc you didn't really give many opinions throughout the game, and you may be able to guess who is mason or VT based on how they interact with your approach
and yea if you're scum it didn't work well enough, because here we are. but that happens sometimes, i don't think that's a very convincing argument for why you can't be scum- Looker
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I don't think it really provides any of these benefits-- most people didn't give a shit about not wagoning possible masons for most of the game. I have things that could associate me with or tie me to both scum members (and I certainly didn't hold back from interacting with Datisi once it was clear he wasn't mason), and my approach really just generates WIFOM wrt how people respond.In post 3038, fireisredsir wrote:you have stated before a lack of faith in your own scumplay abilities and so this playstyle seems like a reasonable approach from that perspective. it protects you from getting eliminated early, it prevents you from having strong associatives bc you didn't really give many opinions throughout the game, and you may be able to guess who is mason or VT based on how they interact with your approach
Especially starting yesterday. What exactly do you think my plan to win was? Like, I know I'm a passive scum player, but I play to my outs. Why would I spend the entire day promising a reread when I could have been appearing to do something that would either save Datisi or (more likely) make me look unaligned with him?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- fireisredsir
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yea i agree i don't think it's a very good approach. that doesn't make me think you're town tho. the alternative fmpov is looker and i think her approach makes even less sense as scum
and yesterday you were VLA and had 4 posts in the span of a week. i don't understand your argument here
you're saying if you were scum you "could have been appearing to do something" more than you actually did?- fireisredsir
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Basically, yeah. I had plenty of brief opportunities to post, certainly if I wanted to push a simplistic angle (something you already have to accept that if I'm scum I was willing to do this game, because of Andante) I could have at least stated the angle and placed a vote instead of just delaying.In post 3043, fireisredsir wrote:you're saying if you were scum you "could have been appearing to do something" more than you actually did?
I delayed because I wanted to figure out the masons before doing anything, and that required a semi-close read. If I'm scum I have a vested interest in finding out the masons, yes, but not until night. (Also, knowing I was not a mason, it was trivial to determine who they were after Ari flipped, so my partner could have just done it and told me.)It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- hutmeil
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You willing to elim Looker instead? For me it's either SS or Looker.In post 3044, fireisredsir wrote:hut? thoughts?- hutmeil
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For me they're both town.In post 3035, Something_Smart wrote:I mean if fire and Enchant want to stake the game on the other being town then I won't contradict it, especially if hutmeil agrees.- hutmeil
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