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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:52 pm

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You also couldn’t join the Gamma wagon either.

It’s a literal least shitty spot.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:53 pm

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In post 497, Roden wrote:Like, I could have just kept my vote on you. Multiple people wanted you gone, and instead I defended your slot. You made it clear you didn't want to vote Drapion, and if I was CL and wanted to use that against you I would've made sure Drapion interacted with you in a way that made you look worse so that I could mis-elim you today. The way you're describing my play otherwise makes it sound like you think I just fumbled the game and didn't know what I was doing.
In post 496, Roden wrote:Math...you have to have content before I can read you...
No?

You can have a read from a single post.

It’s actually rather common thing people do on D1
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:01 pm

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In post 501, MathBlade wrote:
In post 497, Roden wrote:Like, I could have just kept my vote on you. Multiple people wanted you gone, and instead I defended your slot. You made it clear you didn't want to vote Drapion, and if I was CL and wanted to use that against you I would've made sure Drapion interacted with you in a way that made you look worse so that I could mis-elim you today. The way you're describing my play otherwise makes it sound like you think I just fumbled the game and didn't know what I was doing.
In post 496, Roden wrote:Math...you have to have content before I can read you...
No?

You can have a read from a single post.

It’s actually rather common thing people do on D1
Common perhaps but I feel it's more common to not have a solid read of someone off of their first post.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:12 pm

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Yeah I really don't agree that because I didn't town read you after you wrote a single RQS post that I must be the CL
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:47 pm

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In post 503, Roden wrote:Yeah I really don't agree that because I didn't town read you after you wrote a single RQS post that I must be the CL
I get you don’t agree. You wouldn’t agree as either alignment

You said you had a read on me and are taking it back

Words imho at this point are unlikely to convince me from what to me seems a pure logic issue.

I don’t get how people don’t see “I said A”
And “I didn’t say A”

And people somehow still TR you is ridiculous

Likely probably just going to have to settle for a cultist read or backup CL.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:40 pm

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I didn't take back a read on you. Like there's nothing else to say here, what you're seeing here is a completely foreign interpretation of what actually happened.

What I'm understanding is that because I didn't unvote Hutmeil after you replaced in, you think that I scum read you as well. If that's the case, that's something I can understand. If not, I don't know what to say, I can't argue with something that I know didn't happen.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:13 pm

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Every interaction Math seems to have is him saying something about someone, them disagreeing, and him still saying that's what happened. I don't understand
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:14 pm

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@catboi is gamma not voting for me?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:21 pm

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In post 499, MathBlade wrote:Because you had to.

If you kept your vote on me too long then I realize you’re scum based on earlier claims.

If you didn’t vote Drapion then people would call you out.

The only place you could move your vote is Drapion
You were almost voted out and if momentum hadn’t shifted you likely would have been
I don’t think it’s Roden. Also, that post you called shade looks like you’re post facto ascribing scum motive to things that seem innocuous, notably the last line
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:32 pm

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Spoiler: post 494 by MathBlade
In post 494, MathBlade wrote:
In post 491, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 176, Roden wrote:Oh sweet, I can actually read Math
[he is scum because I am voting his slot]


Vibe of the game so far was that your slot wasn't doing much and seemed frozen.
[your slot is scummy]
I scum read Drapion independently of Hutmeil, but I read Hutmeil's inaction as scummier.
Hutmeil = my slot = scummy
Meg, Elements, and Gamma all seem pretty townie, not sure on Mala and Fred yet. NK15 is a player that I'm waiting for a meta tell before I settle on a read there.

Why no question/comment for Drapion?
Fishing trying to connect me with a cultist

I don't see what you are referencing here?
Bold is Emphasis for clarity not in original post
In post 176, Roden wrote:Oh sweet, I can actually read Math
[Roden can read MathBlade]


Vibe of the game so far was that your slot wasn't doing much and seemed frozen.
[hutmeil was not doing much and seemed frozen]
I scum read Drapion independently of Hutmeil, but I read Hutmeil's inaction as scummier.
Meg, Elements, and Gamma all seem pretty townie, not sure on Mala and Fred yet. NK15 is a player that I'm waiting for a meta tell before I settle on a read there.

Why no question/comment for Drapion?
[Why didn't you address Drapion in your post?]

Bold is my interpretation of Roden's post.

Also, I think Roden decided to read you disregarding hutmeil's actions.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:56 am

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roden & mb stop arguing with each other
u are both town
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:51 am

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In post 507, Elements wrote:@catboi is gamma not voting for me?
Fixed, thank you.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:04 am

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In post 509, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
Spoiler: post 494 by MathBlade
In post 494, MathBlade wrote:
In post 491, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 176, Roden wrote:Oh sweet, I can actually read Math
[he is scum because I am voting his slot]


Vibe of the game so far was that your slot wasn't doing much and seemed frozen.
[your slot is scummy]
I scum read Drapion independently of Hutmeil, but I read Hutmeil's inaction as scummier.
Hutmeil = my slot = scummy
Meg, Elements, and Gamma all seem pretty townie, not sure on Mala and Fred yet. NK15 is a player that I'm waiting for a meta tell before I settle on a read there.

Why no question/comment for Drapion?
Fishing trying to connect me with a cultist

I don't see what you are referencing here?
Bold is Emphasis for clarity not in original post
In post 176, Roden wrote:Oh sweet, I can actually read Math
[Roden can read MathBlade]


Vibe of the game so far was that your slot wasn't doing much and seemed frozen.
[hutmeil was not doing much and seemed frozen]
I scum read Drapion independently of Hutmeil, but I read Hutmeil's inaction as scummier.
Meg, Elements, and Gamma all seem pretty townie, not sure on Mala and Fred yet. NK15 is a player that I'm waiting for a meta tell before I settle on a read there.

Why no question/comment for Drapion?
[Why didn't you address Drapion in your post?]

Bold is my interpretation of Roden's post.

Also, I think Roden decided to read you disregarding hutmeil's actions.
I really don’t see that interpretation at all.

It really feels like I am being gaslit here.

I will just hunt for cultist I guess since CL is off the table. Maybe I will be wrong again and it turn out right.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:07 am

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In post 506, Elements wrote:Every interaction Math seems to have is him saying something about someone, them disagreeing, and him still saying that's what happened. I don't understand
It’s pretty simple

I say so and so said a logical fact.

Someone else disagrees and says that’s not what they said.

I read the post again and still see the logical fact.

It’s like if you say a post has the word “the” in it

Someone else says “no the post doesn’t”

I reread it and still see the word “the”

No amount of telling me it’s not there makes it disappear.

It only feels like gaslighting
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:09 am

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In post 505, Roden wrote:I didn't take back a read on you. Like there's nothing else to say here, what you're seeing here is a completely foreign interpretation of what actually happened.

What I'm understanding is that because I didn't unvote Hutmeil after you replaced in, you think that I scum read you as well. If that's the case, that's something I can understand. If not, I don't know what to say, I can't argue with something that I know didn't happen.
Repeating this repeatedly is toxic af to the game

I will just go after you tomorrow when we don’t flip the CL today because we cant
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:25 am

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You don't have any other players you think could be CL?
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:27 am

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Also you are disagreeing with three people besides Roden means that at least two townies don't see it the same way. It's not as open and shut as you claim it to be or else we wouldn't be here.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:36 am

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In post 515, MegAzumarill wrote:You don't have any other players you think could be CL?
I have them in my PoE but no where near as likely.

I get other people disagree but I don’t see how

I say 2+2 = 4 I get told it is 5

I can’t just “believe” it’s 5.

That’s how I feel.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:05 am

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Ok but this conversation isn't going to get anywhere. Who else do you think could be CL
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:55 am

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In post 517, MathBlade wrote:
In post 515, MegAzumarill wrote:You don't have any other players you think could be CL?
I have them in my PoE but no where near as likely.

I get other people disagree but I don’t see how

I say 2+2 = 4 I get told it is 5

I can’t just “believe” it’s 5.

That’s how I feel.
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I really feel like me and fred have the correct interpretation of Roden's post and you're just being unreasonable.
All of the first 3 bits you presented in don't really have room for interpretation. The last part does, but the conclusion I and Fred reached seems way more natural than yours given the things that came before Roden's post. Roden asked that question because you asked
everyone except Drapion
something in your first post. So if you think Roden is tying you to Drapion, then I don't know what to say because the only thing I can say is gonna make me sound like a jackass.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:39 am

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In post 469, MathBlade wrote:MegAzumarill — eliminated as CL
Malakittens
Roden
MathBlade — me not scum
Elements — established unlikely
ProfessorDrapion — Flipped cult
Fredrick A Campbell
Gamma Emerald — established unlikely
Not Known 15 — established unlikely

This is the pool I see for possible CLs right now.

I strongly disagree with taking Roden out of this pool.

However if after my case you find that Roden is not the CL I will vote somewhere else in my pool.
Possible CL pool to me

As I said will move on but I really think Roden is cult here
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:23 am

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We all can say with confidence that Mathblade isn't CL.
So Mathblade was Town Day 1.
In post 423, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think Elements makes a good CL but the fact I wasn’t culted means scum might hope I tunnel elements.

I kinda want to see how people open.
This is " I think X but". We saw this on Drapion, who flipped Cult.
In post 462, MathBlade wrote:
In post 28, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Yeah honestly I think our objective here is to figure out who the CL is and make sure they are executed today.
Also make sure to remember that the second cult member might try and save their CL today cause if they don’t they would have a low chance of winning.

My suggestion is to make sure if your town reading someone not to blindly sheep their town reads (I never do) but cause like they could be the second cultist trying to make their CL look good so make sure you have valid reasons for each of your Townreads.
This read way too honest for me. This reads to me like Drapion had a plan to be TR’d early and Drapion is one of those too honest scum that doesn’t know yet how to highlight which points of scum to highlight and which not. This makes me think that Drapion will have never voted the cult leader.
Yeah no. That assessment is actually made out of thin air. All rests on the unsubstantiated "Drapion is one of those too honest scum"; and even if it was honest it might have been something Drapion wanted to
avoid doing
because they knew it.
In post 464, MathBlade wrote:
In post 92, ProfessorDrapion wrote:I do actually like Elements too but nothing that makes me say “yeah this is town”
But I do think Gamma/Elements are not both aligned together so if Gamma flips wolf then I think Elements is just town.
Although I guess if Gamma isn’t the CL then the CL could convert Elements and no longer make them town but my point is I don’t think they are ever starting wolves.
I think furthermore if my theory that Gamma isn’t CL is correct because of the vote then it’s likely Elements isn’t either because I don’t see any evidence of a planned bus. Maybe a planned conversion of Elements later but this really reads as TMI.
This is some next level BS because this rests on "there was a bus" which we have no credible evidence for. It took a lot for Drapion to be limmed.
The "elements is town" case is, again, made out of thin air.
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In post 417, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Yes.
One of my voters are definitely a cult and I think it’s Math.
This very much reads to me like Drapion’s CL had the intention of converting me and then driving that bus into the ground. Let’s look at the prior post Drapion had.
Why would Math assume that the CL would try to convert them? Maybe because it succeeded?
In post 472, MathBlade wrote:Now comes the question of who Roden would convert.

If they tried me and failed they would know they would need to buddy me. Especially if they think I am the inconvertible Townie.

This really matches his open and why I wanted to back off and give space to see if someone else was a convert target.

Nothing is striking me now which makes me think he failed the convert.

VOTE: Roden
This is again, Math's scum bullshit mode meta.
This rests on the assumption that Roden failed to convert(something that is not likely from the position of a VT). It also rests on "no one else has been converted".
In post 473, MathBlade wrote:
In post 456, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:If it can be achieved, I will execute Malakittens, Not Known 15 or Elements this day phase. This decision is not final.
The one exception is maybe Frederick because imho that PoE is terrible.
Backed up by exactly nothing.
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In post 483, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 480, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 479, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Elements
I get a bad vibe from his Fred vote. Meg’s too but she’s probably not CL.
Can you explain that "bad vibe" a bit more?
Ditto here tbh
Agreed on bad vibe. I don’t think Elements can be CL though

But if a wagon forms again with TRs I will follow onto it like Drapion

Mainly I kinda don’t think any wagon except Fred is on a potential CL candidate though :/

So I am just blah.
We have to remove the CL. So this is a soft defense of Elements.
That isn't the only telling thing though, here!
Remember what Math said before?
Nothing is striking me now which makes me think he failed the convert.
But if that thing would give them a bad vibe, and element isn't CL, they could be the convert, right?
However, Mathblade never backs down from that theory:
In post 514, MathBlade wrote:
In post 505, Roden wrote:I didn't take back a read on you. Like there's nothing else to say here, what you're seeing here is a completely foreign interpretation of what actually happened.

What I'm understanding is that because I didn't unvote Hutmeil after you replaced in, you think that I scum read you as well. If that's the case, that's something I can understand. If not, I don't know what to say, I can't argue with something that I know didn't happen.
Repeating this repeatedly is toxic af to the game

I will just go after you tomorrow when we don’t flip the CL today because we cant


Well, that was not what I was expecting....
but Mathblade has spewed themselves as the convert... and Elements as Cult Leader.
Every time Mathblade said loads of massive BS it was when scum-pushing someone, with one exception. Elements.
In post 423, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think Elements makes a good CL but the fact I wasn’t culted means scum might hope I tunnel elements.

I kinda want to see how people open.
This is also telling us that Elements is Mathblade's CL: Math is trying to establish a thought progression here, but on Day 1 Math said:
In post 207, MathBlade wrote:180 is how I form reads

Scum rarely if ever do relational reads or feel where the vibes are

So I make hypothesis and test them
I was evidently wrong on that one post () coming from town.
VOTE: Elements
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:54 pm

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VOTE: elements

Peac out bro
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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