Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Game Over !

[kitten around]

dannflor is scum trying to lurk out of the game

UNVOTE:

Waiting for Dann to respond.

[kitten around]

v/La until Sunday for thanksgiving related things

will try to pop in as I can

Dann why haven’t you posted?

Still think Enchant is suss but I think NM has a point wrt the possible lurking.

[Enchant]

I will be reluctant to vote Dann anyway. NK seems to be tunneled.

... Which fairly could cost us game if both NM and Dann are town.

[Porkens]

I could vote kitten

[kitten around]

I could vote kitten

I’m town. Are you usually this bad at scumhunting? Or maybe it is actually you?

[kitten around]

I will be reluctant to vote Dann anyway. NK seems to be tunneled.

... Which fairly could cost us game if both NM and Dann are town.

I like this recent post. Maybe it is Porkens?

But NM could be right that Dann could be avoiding the game but other than his not posting, I liked his posting. \_0_/

I think NM is either correct town or wrongly tunnelled town. Him tunnelling on a slot is usually town indicative for him. He’s been wrong like in Schadd’s game but he sounds like he believes in that read. Sometimes he’s right. So I’m going to not vote until Dann posts something or someone does something to make me confidently want to vote them.

[kitten around]

Porkens, what are your reads?

Who would you vote out in order?

[kitten around]

dannflor is scum trying to lurk out of the game

I can feel that

I could vote kitten

How do you even get to agreeing with NM on Dann to wanting to vote me?

Is either one of these a real read?

[Porkens]

Both. I don’t think it’s either of the memes.

[Dannflor]

I have been busy all weekend with family stuff

I'm back now

[Dannflor]

enchant do you have reasons to believe kitten is scum beyond like, number/claim?

I don't have a good idea of what your reads actually are or what you want in this game

you were ready to vote me yesterday, what happened to that?

[Enchant]

Kitty flipped.

[Dannflor]

KittyTacky - I'm town.
Dannflor - Town. Generally been solvy, shading of me seems uninformed (both of my meta and of this game). I think the Junko push also seemed uninformed.
kitten around - Town. Activity around Junko seemed TvT honestly, I doubt scum would react so explosively to an attack and attract unneeded attention to themselves.
PenguinPower - Null. Didn't do anything outrageously scummy this game but he's just kinda there which I thiiiink is NAI for PP?
Enchant - Null. I can't read Enchant. Sorry.
Porkens - Scum lean. I still don't like this, was just a bit hesitant to vote them yesterday.
Not_Mafia - Scum. I reread the game today, I don't think this is town NM, NM contrary to popular belief actually plays to win as town and here he's just... there. I retract my "scapecow" comment, he really reads like bored/demoralized/dissociated scum from the tone of his posts. Lim this.

[Dannflor]

Spoiler:

4. You did downplay your own read - we can agree on that. I think that’s scummy because it’s a good setup for having your read proved wrong. I can see scum motivation there. What would the town motivation be?

i didn't "downplay" anything and if you think that i did you quite simply aren't reading anything that i'm saying. i try to be clear about the strength or relative lack thereof when it comes to my reads at all times – if you think that it's more likely that i'm "setting myself up to have a read proven wrong" when nk15 has literally only made one single post than that i'm just being clear about exactly what i think, i'm not really sure what to say. being clear about the lack of strength of a read isn't "downplaying".

Ok well agree to disagree I think that’s the definition of downplaying.

if you have a read that isn't very strong and you make that clear, what would you call that?

Downplaying

okay, i guess we just have a different understanding of that word. to me saying something is "downplaying" has a pretty intrinsic negative connotation of something being bad and you attempting to make it look less bad, when i guess you don't think that's the case.

I don't know is this like ever scum theater

it's just such a stupid thing to fight over

I feel like scum buddies would be more aware of how just like, dumb the fight is

[Dannflor]

Kitty flipped.

how did that impact your reads

[Dannflor]

I will be reluctant to vote Dann anyway. NK seems to be tunneled.

... Which fairly could cost us game if both NM and Dann are town.

if you believe this can you like, explain why

[Enchant]

Turned you more favorable.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote count 5.02

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 5 ends in (expired on 2022-12-02 03:28:00).

yeet

Dannflor [1]:

Not_Mafia

not voting [4]:

Dannflor, Porkens, Enchant, kitten around

flavour

[kitten around]

KittyTacky - I'm town.
Dannflor - Town. Generally been solvy, shading of me seems uninformed (both of my meta and of this game). I think the Junko push also seemed uninformed.
kitten around - Town. Activity around Junko seemed TvT honestly, I doubt scum would react so explosively to an attack and attract unneeded attention to themselves.
PenguinPower - Null. Didn't do anything outrageously scummy this game but he's just kinda there which I thiiiink is NAI for PP?
Enchant - Null. I can't read Enchant. Sorry.
Porkens - Scum lean. I still don't like this, was just a bit hesitant to vote them yesterday.
Not_Mafia - Scum. I reread the game today, I don't think this is town NM, NM contrary to popular belief actually plays to win as town and here he's just... there. I retract my "scapecow" comment, he really reads like bored/demoralized/dissociated scum from the tone of his posts. Lim this.

I really don’t put a lot of stock into your not scum theatre argument Dann. I’ve seen scum do things similar to that. I think this readslist otoh hand is probably more telliing.

Based off this alone, I think it points away from nm, you, me. Enchant, being a null looks the worst based on this and Porkens next with the scumlean but I think this could be Enchant’s scum meta and he wanted to vote me out first when he knows that this is my towngame. Porkens has just been really weird but probably is Enchant.

[kitten around]

How many times you said game ends with my flip? 3?

You probably should keep repeat that: Because it can be true.

Enchant, why did you make this post?

[kitten around]

the draft phase is over.

the order of the draft is as follows:

the mafia have selected the

multitasking

modifier - this means a mafia player may use the factional nightkill and a role ability on the same night.

the role bidding phase begins now. for your convenience, i have also included the possible role choices below:

Spoiler:

night 3 vigilante	or	vengeful
1-shot vigilante	or	2-shot PGO (active)
ascetic cop	or	bulletproof
draft cop	or	1-shot watcher
doctor	or	roleblocker
universal backup	or	rolecop
neighborizer	or	voyeur
jailkeeper	or	tracker

please pm me

the specific role

you wish to be. you have about 48 hours to do so.

VOTE: Enchant

[kitten around]

I DECLARE YUME PORKENS NORTHSIDEGAL NOT KNOWN 15 AND ME AS MASONS

AT BEST ONLY ONE MAF HERE


NOT VOTING RODEN, SLOT WILL SELFRESOLVE


THEREFORE WE ALL SHALL KILL GAMMA

Enchant always picks 1

this is false, but there is this from a previous game:

Subject: Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [scum pt]

Let's pick same number (which is common one, not 420) so people think we are not aligned lol

which for now means basically nothing, but is worth putting in the back pocket, so to speak.

There’s also the vt pick claim which I also thought was strange as well. Why pick 1 in that case? It’s a suspicious claim even if he didn’t pick 1.

[kitten around]

Kitty flipped.

how did that impact your reads

And I put him to E-1, and then NM hammered him. Yet another nonsensical reason to be scumreading me.

[Porkens]

VOTE: enchant

I’ve suspected this since page 2

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Enchant

I guess he couldn't cast a spell on this town